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Title: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: Byrdale on Monday 25 May 20 16:12 BST (UK)
Hello  :)

I have been helping a friend do some research on their FT and we have found Alfred Thomas Morris left the UK for New Zealand in 1955, can anybody help fill in what happened to him next?
Residence, death?
Or can you point me the right direction.
He was born 14 Dec 1904 Lambeth, Surrey.

Thank you
Byrdale
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 25 May 20 17:33 BST (UK)
Was he married?  Children?
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 25 May 20 17:47 BST (UK)
Seems odd - "wife" died 1988.  Did they divorce as death is shown under 2 surnames although I can't find any marriage

Phoebe Ann Morris/Field born 3.8.1905 April 1988 Maidstone 16  1200

There is a probate entry under Field

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 25 May 20 21:35 BST (UK)
IF he died in New Zealand, this is the only death near to the stated year of birth:

1960/32231   Morris   Alfred Thomas   53Y

[However the information does depend on the knowledge of the person providing details at registration, so is not always reliable, especially the age].

The following is the probated will of this Alfred Thomas.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVF-VQBP-F?i=41&wc=4B25-X1K%3A1045247701%2C1602672303&cc=1865481

I have not found a marriage in New Zealand for this couple up to 1956 OR a birth in this country for Alfred Thomas.

1996/45309   Morris   Irene Mavis   24 March 1911

Added: her cemetery details:

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=70B445BE534C3C8BFC506D7D199E665F

If you wish to investigate this man further, you could contact the funeral directors for family information:

http://weirs.co.nz/contact-us/

Cemetery details:

https://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=48834

So, to be discounted or otherwise.   :)


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 25 May 20 21:47 BST (UK)
What was the occupation of the man you are looking for??

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 25 May 20 22:01 BST (UK)
He was a carpenter Minniehaha (in 1939) so same as that death.
I can only find that couple in 1957 electoral roll, not before. But there is also a John Morris, a labourer  with them.
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 25 May 20 22:05 BST (UK)
He was a carpenter Minniehaha (in 1939) so same as that death.
I can only find that couple in 1957 electoral roll, not before. But there is also a John Morris, a labourer  with them.

Mmmm.....Interesting Mckha. So, maybe?

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 25 May 20 22:12 BST (UK)
Looks like Irene is Irene  Mavis Pascoe, a spinster in 1954
So John cannot be hers.
However I don’t see a John birth in England.


Oddly in 1963 she temporarily goes  back to being Pascoe, spinster, but then she shakes that off and goes back to being Morris  all at the same address.

57 Ardmore Road, Auckland
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 25 May 20 22:30 BST (UK)
No obvious candidate for immigration

New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973   On Familysearch.

There is this one, but not a carpenter

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-61Y9-KGD?i=115&cc=1609792&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQJDV-51TR


See Next post, am annoyed I didn’t find it Jon 😀
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 25 May 20 23:09 BST (UK)
A. T. Morris, 48, Carpenter, left London 10 May 1952 for Sydney on the Orion.
Country of Intended Future Permanent Residence - New Zealand.

A.T. Morris, 47, Carpenter, on the Monowai, left Sydney, 24 June 1952, for Wellington
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-65YD-48?i=92&cc=1609792
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 25 May 20 23:23 BST (UK)
1952, Lambeth Vauxhall
10 Burchell House, as per passenger list
Alfred T Morris + 4 others, all Morris

1953 register, A.T. gone, the other four Morris electors remain
1954, Jack gone, now three on the register.
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 25 May 20 23:44 BST (UK)
Did they marry in Uk   :-\

Sep 1955 Lambeth
IRene M PASCOE
Alfred Thomas MORRIS

Miss I M Pascoe
Birth year   24 3 1911
Marital status   S
Occupation   NIGHT PORTRESS
Address in U k 10 Burchell House
Country of last permanent residence NZ
Departure year   9 8 1955
Departure port   London
Destination country   Australia
Ship name   Orion
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 26 May 20 00:40 BST (UK)
Her birth

PASCOE  IRENE M 13763/1911 RICHARD J, ELLEN M BROKEN HILL
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 26 May 20 00:46 BST (UK)
They were both on the Orcades, arrived Southampton. 6 Jun 1955
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 26 May 20 01:43 BST (UK)
Her birth

PASCOE  IRENE M 13763/1911 RICHARD J, ELLEN M BROKEN HILL


Just in case there is any confusion over country of birth:

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?3


Added: Her estate documents-

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=17025146

Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 26 May 20 08:38 BST (UK)
I have not found a marriage in New Zealand for this couple up to 1956 OR a birth in this country for Alfred Thomas.

1996/45309   Morris   Irene Mavis   24 March 1911

Added: her cemetery details:

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=70B445BE534C3C8BFC506D7D199E665F


For info.

New Zealand Billion Graves Cemetery Index

Irene Mavis Morris
Birth date   24 Mar 1911
Death date 06 Aug 1996

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Irene-Mavis-Morris/5865455

Stone inscription - born Broken Hill loving wife of Alfred Thomas Morris
Title: Re: Death for Alfred Thomas Morris
Post by: Byrdale on Tuesday 26 May 20 17:03 BST (UK)
Thank you for all you responses.

Alfred Thomas was married in the UK to Phoebe Ann Burke and they married in Lambeth in 1927 and had a son in 1936, I think I'm correct in saying that he left them.
It does sound like he was with Miss I M Pascoe. His son always wanted to know what happened to him and now he can.

Thank you all so much for all of your time and hard work, it's very much appreciated.
Byrdale