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Title: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
Post by: Julie Curnick on Sunday 24 May 20 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to find the father of Michael Shufflebotham born in abt. 1804  to Mary Shufflebotham of Astbury, Cheshire.
the Register says he was the illegitimate son of Mary Shufflebotham B: 1788.
Another researcher has found evidence to suggest that Edward Turner of Moreton was the father.
Is there anyway to verify this?
Alson I have John Shufflebotham B: abt.1847 the illegitimate son Of Mary Shufflebotham B: abt. 1827 father unknown.
Would you be able to shed any light of either of these would be much appreciated.

Regards Julie
Title: Re: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 May 20 12:47 BST (UK)
If fathers are unknown - unless any bastardy bonds exist against them - you have no proof

What evidence has the other researcher found and how reliable is it? 
Title: Re: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
Post by: Julie Curnick on Sunday 24 May 20 12:54 BST (UK)
Hi CaroleW,
I have information collected from Congleton St Peter's Parish registers. I have tried in other instances for other lines to find these bastardy bonds records but can never find them.
I would appreciate if you could share a link to them I am obviously not putting in the correct words for google to search.
Cheers
Julie

Title: Re: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 May 20 19:54 BST (UK)
Not all bastardy bonds records are available or online.  Would be interesting to hear how the other researcher has established that Edward Turner was his father

Have a look at this post from 2016

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=739156.0

And the reply on this post

https://www.ancestry.com.au/boards/localities.britisles.england.chs.general/10382
Title: Re: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
Post by: garstonite on Monday 25 May 20 11:09 BST (UK)
doesn't give the date of birth - but does give the date of Baptism

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPDN-P4B

do you know that Astbury to Moreton is 60 miles ??  and Mary would have been 16 - or 15 if she was born 1788 after August - do you know the age of Edward Turner of Moreton in 1804 ??
.........................................
John Shufflebotham baptised 5th December 1847

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH2V-FJW
Title: Re: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
Post by: Julie Curnick on Monday 25 May 20 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi thank you for all your suggestions. I have tried all and still to no avail. I will contact the person who gave me the information and see whateventuates.

thanks again
cheers
Julie
Title: Re: Edward Turner of Moreton & Michael Shufflebotham
Post by: williamtov on Wednesday 29 July 20 22:13 BST (UK)
Did you find Michael's baptism in the St Mary Astbury Registers or those of St Peter Congleton? And where was John baptized? There is a district called Moreton immediately south of Astbury.
Williamtov