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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: baldy on Saturday 23 May 20 07:56 BST (UK)
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Hi All.I am "trying"to get information on Agnes.A.AFFLECK,the only information that I was given is that she was a g/daughter to James Beattie.(was told she may have been 6 months of age in 1901)
The James in my research DOB was C:-1834.?
I am of the opinion that there may be a connection,but.
I have not been able to locate her & or parents at this time
I would appreciate any help/information on this person
Thanking you in advance
Regards Baldy
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The index at Scotland's People lists only one Agnes Affleck born in Dumfries, in 1875. There are seven births of Agnes Afflecks between 1895 and 1901, none in Dumfries-shire. There are six Agnes Afflecks aged 0 to 5 in the 1901 census, one of them in Dumfries. However there is no matching birth in the index.
In the 1901 census (FindMyPast transcription) Agnes S Affleck, aged under 1, is in the household of James Beattie, 67. Also in the household Are William Kirpatrick, 24, and Mary Jane Kirkpatrick, 23, both married. William Kirkpatrick and Mary Jane Beattie were married in Dumfries in 1900. The transcription on FindMyPast does not state the relationships of the household members.
There is a birth of Agnes Affleck Kirkpatrick in Dumfries in 1900.
Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, register if you have not already done so, and invest in a few credits. Use 6 of them to download that birth certificate and see what it tells you. Use 6 more to look at the census and see why she is indexed as Affleck rather than Kirkpatrick. You could also get the marriage certificate and see if it confirms that Mary Jane was the daughter of James Beattie.
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Thank you for the reply
The way things look is that I may have been give the wrong information.
Again thank you for the reply
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This is the 1901 census on Scotland's People
AFFLECK AGNES A 1901 F 0 Dumfries Dumfries
This is 1901 on Ancestry.
Agnes S Affleck
Age: 9 Months
Relationship: G Daur (Granddaughter)
Father's name: William Kirkpatrick
Mother's name: Mary Jane Kirkpatrick
Where born: DFS, dumfriesshire
The family but as Forfarian notes there is no birth record on SP for Agnes Affleck but the one suggested seems very likely.
James Beattie 67 James Beattie 19 William Kirkpatrick 24 Mary Jane Kirkpatrick 23
Agnes S Affleck 9 Months William Gillespie 31 Janet Gillespie 27 Margaret Beattie 10
Lewellyn Beattie 7 James Beathe 6
Colin
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WILLIAM KIRKPATRICK married MARY JANE BEATTIE Dumfries 1900
I guess Affleck would be an earlier name connection.
Colin
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In 1881 James Beattie is a farm servant in Kirkcudbrightshire, he seems to be single
1881 Cottage, Tongland, Kirkcudbrightshire
James Beattie Head Married Male 48 1833 Lab (General) Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Agnes Beattie Wife Married Female 50 1831 Lab's Wife Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Elizabeth J Beattie Daughter - Female 10 1871 Scholar Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
James Herring Grandson - Male 2 1879 - Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
1891 - Dumfries, Dumfriesshire – No mention of Agnes after assume died but no record for Agnes Beattie
James Beattie 56 Irongray, Kirkcudbright
Annie M Beattie 19 Irongray, Kirkcudbright
Joseph W Beattie 11 Dumfries, Dumfriesshire
James Beattie 9 ditto
Margaret Beattie 9 Mo ditto
I guess this is the death for Agnes so I assume they never married, daughter Margaret’s birth was registered in 1890, so it depends on the dates?
KIRKPATRICK AGNES 60 1889 Dumfries
I believe these are the parents of William Kirkpatrick and the link to Agnes Affleck Kirkpatrick, records from SP would be best to be sure.
AFFLECK AGNES KIRKPATRICK ANDREW 1881 Urr. Kirkcudbright.
Colin
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Hi Colin.Thank you for the reply.The Beattie in 1891 is the one that I am working on.
You and Forfarian are correct in saying that William Kirkpatrick & M.J Beattie were the parents of Agnes in 1901.I also could not find on SP Agnes Affleck.
Will now order birth certificate
Again I thank you for your help
Regards Baldy (au)