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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: janway on Friday 22 May 20 14:56 BST (UK)
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looking for the marriage of William Atherton and Mary Hagain [Hagon] around 1858 also bapt of children James 1858 and John 1860. St Wallburge is the nearest RC church to were they lived so hope its the right one.
thanks
Janway
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Can only seem as yet to find a civil registration for spring 1858 for this marriage - so you're probably right, R.C. On this her name is given as "Haigan" - that might help.
-I was amazed, it seemed to be compulsory for any William Atherton to marry a Mary someone or other, there were loads of 'em!
I'll keep hunting.
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Lancashire BMD confirms this marriage to be at Preston Register Office - or Registrar attended (the latter meaning a Non-Conformist or Roman Catholic event).
The bride's name shown as Mary Hagain.
James birth registered in 1859 - mother's maiden name Hagon. (Lancs BMD)
Strangely though I cannot see a birth registration for John Atherton around 1860 on that site.
You will be very unlikely to find the marriage record and baptism details on line if they were RC I'm afraid. Only a minority of RC records are on line.
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There were a few other RC Churches in Preston all within a 10 minute walk of St W's.
St Wilfrid's is in the City Centre.
Trivia
St Wallburge's has the second or third highest spire in England and in the nineties a certain Bolton Steeplejack namely Fred Dibner spent a few weeks repairing the spire. I saw him perched at the top of the spire one day, rather him than me that is for sure.
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There were a few other RC Churches in Preston all within a 10 minute walk of St W's.
St Wilfrid's is in the City Centre.
Trivia
St Wallburge's has the second or third highest spire in England and in the nineties a certain Bolton Steeplejack namely Fred Dibner spent a few weeks repairing the spire. I saw him perched at the top of the spire one day, rather him than me that is for sure.
St Walburge's actually has the highest parish church spire in England (309ft). The only spires higher are Salisbury & Norwich Cathedrals. only 6ft shorter than Norwich (315ft)
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There is a wonderful article on Lancs OPC about St Walburge's -- written by 'Atticus', who was well known for his writings in Preston. It was apparantly originally printed in 1869.
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Preston/Preston/stwalburge/index.html
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"Atticus" ... there used to be an illustrator who published work regularly in "The Dalesman" of that name .... 1950s/60s, though.
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You will be very unlikely to find the marriage record and baptism details on line if they were RC I'm afraid. Only a minority of RC records are on line.
I'll second that and third it for Preston. Many of my maternal ancestors were in Preston in 19thC. I had to buy marriage certificates.
As far as I know, Preston wasn't included in transcriptions of registers published by Catholic Record Society in their journals.
List of Catholic churches in Preston + dates & location of registers are on GEN UKI website. Select a church to see dates of registers and map location. There's an option to see all churches of a denomination on a map of Preston. Each denomination has a coloured marker. Can select appropriate denomination or coloured marker.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/church_list/1815
Baptism and marriage registers of St. Walburge's from 1853 + burials from 1891 are at Lancashire Archives, according to GENUKI.
Church Registers Guide on Lancashire Archives catalogue, arranged by denomination. Roman Catholic church registers list is in alphabetical order of place.
https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/media/67392/P.pdf
Information about St. Walburge's Church, Preston on Lancashire Past website with links to other sources.
https://lancashirepast.com/2016/12/20/st-walburges-church-maudlands-preston
St. Walburge's Church is on Facebook.
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Trivia
St Wallburge's has the second or third highest spire in England and in the nineties a certain Bolton Steeplejack namely Fred Dibner spent a few weeks repairing the spire. I saw him perched at the top of the spire one day, rather him than me that is for sure.
It was the last spire Fred worked on. 2004? Mentioned in article about the church on "Lancashire Past" website.
Btw Biggles, I see you have Lamb and Hardman among your surnames. My Lambs went to live in booming Preston almost 200 years ago. They were stonemasons so may have worked on, in or near churches. Ellen Hardman was my earliest ancestor in the direct female line, born 1760s. Mother of 10. One of her daughters + husband & children moved to Preston.
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Trivia
St Wallburge's has the second or third highest spire in England and in the nineties a certain Bolton Steeplejack namely Fred Dibner spent a few weeks repairing the spire. I saw him perched at the top of the spire one day, rather him than me that is for sure.
It was the last spire Fred worked on. 2004? Mentioned in article about the church on "Lancashire Past" website.
Btw Biggles, I see you have Lamb and Hardman among your surnames. My Lambs went to live in booming Preston almost 200 years ago. They were stonemasons so may have worked on, in or near churches. Ellen Hardman was my earliest ancestor in the direct female line, born 1760s. Mother of 10. One of her daughters + husband & children moved to Preston.
My Lamb family lived in and around Cockerham for 300 years hence the St Michaels Church records were invaluable for piecing the tree together.
In the tree there is a Jane Hardman and Jane Lamb, they married and Jane Hardman became Jane Lamb and Jane Lamb became Jane I have not found any interbreeding but going sideways can be problematic with so many Thomas, William, Richard, Jane, and Elizabeth Lamb’s in the records.
As far as I can tell the furthest back Lamb was from Lancaster but that is tentative at best.
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Have you got William on any census or know his occupation