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Hi. Looking for the burial for Mary Winterbottom age 33, wife of Sam Winterbottom of 24 Holly Terrace, Fartown.
Have looked on Ancestry without luck. Thought it might be on another site.
Her death is recorded on the Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Quarter for Huddersfield. But it will be a while before GRO will be processing orders.
Cheers Karen
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Nothing on FindMyPast.
Emeltom
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Hi emeltom
Thank you for looking.
Not to be disrespectful to poor Mary, but I am more interested in finding out how old her twins were when she died. They were probably about 2 months.
Cheers Karen
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Hi Karen,
Looking at records it looks like Mary possibly died in childbirth or shortly after. Mary's death was recorded July quarter 1901 and Robert and John Winterbottom's births were also registered in July 1901.
It looks like you will have to wait until you can get Mary's death certificate and the boys birth certificates to get their exact ages when Mary died.
Regards, Ian
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Doesn't help much but John and Robert Winterbottom were baptised at St Andrew, Huddersfield on 27 August 1901. Parents Sam, an Engine Tenter, and Mary. Address 24 Holly Terrace.
Two things - it does not say that Mary is deceased, also it is possible that she was also buried at St Andrews church.
Emeltom
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Hi emeltom
Have checked the burial registers at St Andrew's and everywhere else in Huddersfield.
According to the 1939 England census John and Robert were born 26 June 1901. If Mary was still alive when they were baptized, 27 August, then they were about 2 months old when she died.
Sam waited the customary 12 mourning period and remarried 20 September 1902 at Christ Church, Woodhouse. Checked the burial registers there also without luck.
I have 3 other deaths around that time in Huddersfield that I can't find burials for, 2 in 1904 and 1 in 1905.
I have to wonder where else I should be looking???
Thanks so much
Karen
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Just a thought - Edgerton Road Cemetery :-\
https://www.hdfhs.org.uk/edgerton-cemetery/
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Yes I have looked at Edgerton. I have 3 Winterbottom graves there, but no Mary ???
I'm also looking for Hannah Challand (nee Winterbottom) d Mar 1904 Huddersfield death register, Fred Winterbottom d 13 Jun 1911 Close Hill, Huddersfield and Caleb Winterbottom d 17 Feb 1904 at Batley.
Have even looked as far away as Leeds. What am I doing wrong? Is it usual that some burials cannot be found?
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There is also cremation to be considered.
These are the areas covered by the Huddersfield Registration District, so a number of locations to think about.
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/huddersfield.html
I can see Hannah, residing in Huddersfield in 1891, but can't seem to see her in 1901.
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Hi BumbleB
Thank you for the link, I'll keep looking.
I like your "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!! This is true
Cheers Karen
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Hi Karen. you could try Family search.org, just had a look on there and there is a sam winterbottom and mary taylor married 1901 also if you explore the family tree you will see robert and john too, plus others .free to join just register. happy hunting. bert
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The address given at the baptism is 24 Holly Terrace, but they family are not there on 31 March 1901 when the census was taken. I wonder if Mary was already dead by 27 August - I note that they were privately baptised.
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Finally found my copy of the parish register holdings at West Yorkshire Archives - there are no burial records at all for St Andrew, so I assume that there was no graveyard there.
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Your missing Winterbottoms may have been buried in a municipal cemetery, or even cremated. Deceased on line is my go to for my Calderdale relatives, but they don't have Kirklees records. Kirklees council seem to say they dont have much in the way of digitised earlier records, and point to the Huddersfield Libraries Family History Section. They have an online query form, and I have found them helpful in the past.
https://www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/contact-the-council/frequent-contacts/default.aspx?contact=huddersfield.localhistory@kirklees.gov.uk
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The address given at the baptism is 24 Holly Terrace, but they family are not there on 31 March 1901 when the census was taken. I wonder if Mary was already dead by 27 August - I note that they were privately baptised.
Hi BumbleB, Aren't you clever, I didn't notices the Ps. Maybe she was already dead or very sick.
Thank you
Cheers Karen
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Your missing Winterbottoms may have been buried in a municipal cemetery, or even cremated. Deceased on line is my go to for my Calderdale relatives, but they don't have Kirklees records. Kirklees council seem to say they dont have much in the way of digitised earlier records, and point to the Huddersfield Libraries Family History Section. They have an online query form, and I have found them helpful in the past.
https://www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/contact-the-council/frequent-contacts/default.aspx?contact=huddersfield.localhistory@kirklees.gov.uk
Hi Marmaduke 123
Thank you for the link will give them a try.
Cheers Karen