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Rose Jane Harrison age 23 of 21 Victoria Promenade, Northampton, married Dexter Thomas Dalley on 25 Dec 1896 at All Saints, Northampton giving her father as Thomas Harrison, collier? page 58 No. 115 of register witnesses William John Dalley (?) and Edith Mary Ward.
Rose Jane Harrison age 23 of 21 Victoria Promenade, Northampton, married William George Smith on 25 Dec 1896 at All Saints, Northampton giving her father as John Henry Cox, groom page 58 No. 116 of register witnesses Annie Cox and John Henry Cox.
Yes, I know, Christmas Day, brandy for the parson and baccy ......
I know Rose Dalley had Henry 1897, Herbert 1901 and Edith 1904. I also know Rose J gave her birth date on the 1939 Register as 7 July 1874.
She may have been living in Bolton as a 17year old cook from Northampton at 1891 census, but would only have been 16.
She may have been daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Harrison of Birmingham in 1881 and 1891 census, but again a year out in age.
Pretty certain she is not Rose daughter of Vincent Frost O'Connor publican, drunkard and adulterer (or so his wife said at the divorce) of Northampton.
I have tried FindMyPast and Ancestry, a number of near fits, but no actual hits.
Covid lockdown and a dodgy knee are enough for me, but Rose really is pushing it too far!
Can anyone offer ideas as to her origins, please?
Thanks
Coelmar
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Hi...
Freebmd gives four names on the page.
Catherine Annie Cox
Dexter Thomas Dalley
Rose Jane Harrison
William George Smith..
Is Rose on both marriage certs? If so just an error somewhere.
Tazzie
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The actual marriage certs are incorrect. Suspect the vicar prepared them in advance and got his brides muddled.
The cert for Cox & Smith shows Rose as the bride but the signatures are those of William George Smith & Catherine Annie Cox & their 2 witnesses are surname Cox
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Rose Jane Harrison age 23 of 21 Victoria Promenade, Northampton, married
Dexter Thomas Dalley on 25 Dec 1896 at All Saints, Northampton
giving her father as Thomas Harrison, collier? page 58 No. 115 of register
witnesses William John Dalley (?) and Edith Mary
I also know Rose J gave her birth date on the 1939 Register as 7 July 1874.
Is it possible that this his her birth entry mmn blank on GRO indexes
DALLEY, ROSA JANE HARRISON -
1874 S Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 56
DALLEY, DEXTER THOMAS mmn SKEVINGTON
1873 J Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 81
1881c Mile Street, Bozeat, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
Henry T Dalley Head 1824 Grocer Turvey, Bedfordshire
Martha Dalley Wife 1834 - Bozeat, Northamptonshire
Dexter T Dalley Son 1873 Scholar Bozeat, Northamptonshire
Same address in 1891 plus 3 lodgers and
William Skevington Brother In Law Single 1853 Baker Bozeat, Northamptonshire
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Transcribed as Dalby
1881 1554/69/39
Thomas Harrison 27 Yrs
Mary J. Harrison 26 yrs
Rose J. Dalby 6 yrs b Northampton
William J. Dalby 3 yrs
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Marriage 1880 Northampton
Thomas Harrison and Mary Jane Dalley are on the same page
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Transcribed as Dalby
1881 1554/69/39
Thomas Harrison 27 Yrs
Mary J. Harrison 26 yrs
Rose J. Dalby 6 yrs b Northampton
William J. Dalby 3 yrs
Marriage 1880 Northampton
Thomas Harrison and Mary Jane Dalley are on the same page
Great find 1881 census was just about to post same marriage entry
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Possibly baptism for Mary
Mary Jane Dalley
Baptism date 07 Jan 1855 Northampton
Father John Mother Elizabeth
Edit to add 1861 census
Court, St Peters Street, Northampton
John Dalley Head Widower 1829 Labourer Turvey, Bedfordshire
Ann Dalley Unmarried 1844 Housekeeper Turvey, Bedfordshire
Mary Dalley Daughter 1855 - Northampton, Northamptonshire
Ann Dalley Daughter 1857 - Northampton,
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Church record for marriage
St Katharine’s Northampton
January 18th 1880
Thomas Harrison 26 yrs Bachelor Labourer residence Mare Fair father Joseph Harrison labourer
Mary Jane Dalley 25yrs Mare Fair father John Dalley, labourer
Witnesses Alfred Harrison and Anne Dalley
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Thank You, all of you, for sorting me out. I feel pretty confident that
1843 Mary Jane Dalley on GRO births
1861 Mary Jane Dalley age 6 on census, dau of John and Ann
1871 Mary Jane Dalley age 17 on census as domestic servant
1874 Rose Jane H Dalley on GRO births note the H
1876 Rose Jane Dalley baptised at St Andrew, Northampton, mother Mary, no father
1877 William John S Dalley on GRO births
1880 Mary Jane and Thomas Harrison married
1881 Rose Jane Dally dau, and William J Dalley son, of Thos, and Mary Harrison on census
1891 Rose J Harrison age 17 working as a cook in Bolton
1896 Rose Jane Harrison married Dexter Dalley.
Dalley to Harrison to Dalley via Dally and Dalby caused me some confusion, but I'm now sorted, Thanks
Coelmar.
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Thanks good to know - quite confusing, yes. :)
I think, if I recall, that the fathers were possibly brothers.