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I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Christie, bn in Edinburgh 1818-1819, married Mary Anne Gray in Gibraltar 1844, was in Royal sappers and Miners. He died in 1870, in Brompton cemetary. Peter married Agnes Irvine in Wigtown 1844, he immigrated to Philadelphia around 1852. I believe they were bn in St. Cuthberts. Thank You!
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Welcome to rootschat, nelson.
Have you looked on scotlandspeople for parish baptism or marriage records, and who were they living with on 1841 census?
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Welcome to Rootschat.
The marriage: CHRISTIE PETER to AGNES IRVINE/FR346 (FR346) 10/03/1844 886/ 20 295 Inch
Is this Peter’s death?: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-66T7-S67?i=1538&cc=1320976&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJKQ7-9XH
CHRISTIE PETER parents LESLIE CHRISTIE/ISABELLA MCDONALD FRMR5-5P95 20/03/1824 685/2 330 0 St Cuthbert's
Did Peter and Agnes have children? If so what were there names?
1941: 685/1 29/ 1 Edinburgh Midlothian
Leslie 45
Isabella 43
James 21
William 17
Peter 15
Henry 7
What evidence do you have that Thomas and Peter are brothers?
Jamjar
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A tree on Ancestry has Peter returning from Philadelphia and marrying Mary Ann after Thomas's death, then all going back to Philadelphia.
There is a marriage in Chelsea in 1871 of Peter, 47, a tailor, a widower, and Mary Ann Gray, 45, a widow, both of Lower Sloane Street. His Father given as Thomas Christie and hers as John Tucker.
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I can see this Thomas Christie in Brompton Barracks in 1851, but not with a wife Mary Ann
1851
Thomas Christie 33 Edinburgh
Eliza A Christie 25 Hythe
Catherine Christie 5 Gibraltar
James Christie 2 Woolwich
Mary A Christie 6 Mo Gillingham
Ann Christie 3 Gibraltar
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This is a 1861 census living in Plumstead
Thos Christie 41 Chelsea pensioner and smith born Edinburgh
Mary Ann Christie 34 Hythe
Eliza Agnes Christie 15 Gibraltar
Catharine Christie 14 Gibraltar
Thos Christie 12 Woolwich
John Christie 8 Alderney
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Same family in 1871?
Ann Christie 44 head widowed Dover Kent
Kate Christie 28 Gibraltar
John Christie 17 Alderney Mason
George Christie 9 Woolwich
This could be George
GRO December quarter 1861 in Lewisham
George William Christie mmn Gray
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1880 census for a Peter Christy in Philadelphia.
All 3 are tailors, described as sons, he is widowed. His parents and sons' parents born Scotland, but George was born England
Peter Christy 56 Scotland tailor widower
Thomas Christy 33 Scotland tailor
George Christy 18 England tailor
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Quite a lot of information about George on Ancestry - wedding, military, census, calculated arrival date.
Peter leaves everything to his beloved son Thomas, on Peter's death in 1899.
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Living in Philadelphia in 1860
Peter Christe 36 Scotland Tailor
Annie Christe 28 England
Thomas Christe 13 Scotland
Jane Christe 7 Penna.
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Presumably this is where you got the date of immigration around 1852 i.e. before Jane's birth.
Peter and Thomas are described as born in England on 1870 Philadelphia census (both tailors)
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Possibility for her (Peter's wife's) death, but she is not with them in 1870, so already died?
Ann Christie born about 1831, age 43
Died 17th August 1874 at Philadelphia Buried 20th August 1874
Street address: 1632 Cementhaus Ave
Cemetery: Mount Moriah Cemetery Marital status: Married
FHL Film Number: 2026529
But there are other Ann Christy's in Philadelphia of similar age
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Thank you all. I know that Peter and Thomas are brothers from 2 personal sources, one from a letter to my deceased uncle who was researching family line, Two sons, Thomas and Peter, bn in Edinburgh and then about their children and family tree to the point of the note being written. The other was my uncles research of civil and military records while in scotland in the 60s. They both appear to be very accurate from what I have researched.
I have done some research on Ancestry, and it may have been my tree that was mentioned. I put Thomas and Margaret Dickson as a bit of a guess, but do not have real proof it is them. George is my
great grandfather and I have quite a bit of his life story.
I have Thomas as a blacksmith and Peter as a tailor. After Thomas died in london, Peter, who was already twice a widow, returned to London and married Thomas's widow and brought George to America. Peter had a son named Thomas, and Mary Ann had a son named Thomas.
I had put Leslie as the father, but decided I may be wrong as he did not have a thomas for a son.
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You have said that Peter married 3 times - who did he claim was his father on any/all of those marriages?
Have I got the correct censuses for Thomas of 1851, 1861 and his widow and family in 1871 - as some of the names change?
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On attestation Thomas was reported to be 20 years and 7 months old, on 17th April 1839 i.e. born August/September 1818, in St Cuthberts.
Have you found any baptism record? Did he lie about his age or place of birth?
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He claims 41 years and 10 months when discharged in November 1860, which would make birth around January 1819
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Thats for the info. I have Thomas as the father on Thomas's marriage doc. to Mary Anne Gray, and for Peter's marriage to her. I have the marriage banns for Agnes Irvine, but cannot find any record of the marriage doc. No mention of his father. I have marriage index for marriage to Anne Rhodes in Sheffield England. No record of a father. My uncle wrote that only a fragment of the doc. remained.
Referring to the census, for a long long while I had thought that there were two Thomas Christie families, but I see the same birth places and roughly the same names. I think Mary Anne is Eliza A. My relative"s family notes have Mary Anne dying in Philadelphia in 1876.
I have been using Scotpeople to find a Thomas born roughly on either date mentioned. I did not have success in that endeavor, however I found that there is a James Christie/margaret Masson whom I am going to check out. There is both a Peter and Thomas in their family. Maybe it is a Thomas James???