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Title: DerbyDarby
Post by: blinder on Monday 18 May 20 09:25 BST (UK)
I have Edward Derby who married Janet McLaren
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 18 May 20 09:50 BST (UK)
Hello Blinder

Is this the couple in the 1851 census living at Falkirk ??

Edward Derby 56  b Antrim Ireland  - Corn Dealer
Janet Mclaren 54 wife - b Stirling, Stirlingshire
Janet Derby 21 daughter b Falkirk, Stirlingshire

What information are you looking for  :)

Kay
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: blinder on Monday 18 May 20 10:11 BST (UK)
Kay
Thanks. Did not realize this was posted!!!!! That census entry is the couple I am following. He is my 4GG.
I have a death record for Edward from Scotland's People. It shows his father as Johnston Darby(sic), and his wife as Janet Darby and it looks like her maiden name may be Downer. I have been unable to find anyone resembling Johnston Darby, nor Janet Darby(Downer).
Bryan
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: ColC on Monday 18 May 20 10:42 BST (UK)
Edward Derby
Spouse   
Janet Maclaren
Marriage   
29/09/1816 Falkirk,Stirlingshire.

Colin
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: blinder on Monday 18 May 20 12:19 BST (UK)
Thanks Colin.
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 18 May 20 13:10 BST (UK)
Possible Brother?

1851 Census Thomas Derby born 1792 Kishandon, Ireland.
Sorry cant look at actual image this is from Anc.
Living in Falkirk

Edward/Jane name a Son Thomas.
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 18 May 20 13:33 BST (UK)
Possible Brother?

1851 Census Thomas Derby born 1792 Kishandon, Ireland.
Sorry cant look at actual image this is from Anc.
Living in Falkirk

Edward/Jane name a Son Thomas.

Had  a quick look at Edward's death cert in 1865 and a Thomas Darby - brother - is listed as the informant on the death cert so looks good Trish
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: blinder on Monday 18 May 20 14:21 BST (UK)
Trish
Thankyou. I have bought that certificate and Thomas Darby(sic) is the informant and is a brother of Edward. Edward was 76 years old.
Might the lack of records re his deceased father Johnstone and mother Janet be because they never came to Scotland with Edward and Thomas.
How common would Johnstone be as a forename? I have not seen it before, but it seems quite clearly written on the death record.
Bryan
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: ColC on Monday 18 May 20 14:42 BST (UK)
Strangely enough when I looked at this earlier the name did not appear in Scotland, however there were a number in England right up to the 20th century.

Colin
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 18 May 20 15:21 BST (UK)
Might the lack of records re his deceased father Johnstone and mother Janet be because they never came to Scotland with Edward and Thomas.
Very likely.

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How common would Johnstone be as a forename? I have not seen it before, but it seems quite clearly written on the death record.
Not at all common.
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 19 May 20 09:14 BST (UK)
New topic-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=831238.new#new

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Johnston isn't actually an uncommon first or middle name in Ireland. Surnames were often used this way- sometimes the name was mother or grandmother's maiden name, other times might be from minister, doctor, schoolteacher, landlord, etc.
Title: Re: DerbyDarby
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Tuesday 19 May 20 09:28 BST (UK)
As Aghadowey says, Johnston(e) would be quite a common forename in Ireland, especially in the counties of Ulster. There were 608 in the 1901 Irish census.