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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: nortybaby on Sunday 17 May 20 06:33 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I am looking for any trace of my great-aunt's child. I came by this information through an article in Trove and it has me stumped. The article reads as follows:
FALSE REGISTRATION OF BIRTH.
A charge against Wm. S. Spillane, grain broker, of making a false statement in registering the
birth of his daughter's illegitimate child was investigated at the St. Kilda police, court on Friday. Spillane pleaded guilty. Considerable public interest was exhibited in the prosecution, the accused being the father of a youth of eighteen years, who, after being shockingly neglected, ran away with the intention of killing himself, but fortunately fell Into the hands of the police. The youth is now -In the care of the Christion Brothers at Geelong,
Eileen M, . Spillane, a young girl wearing A short dress, said she gave birth to a illegitimate. child at the residence of Nurse Arscott, Inkerman St., on 19th June, 1906. Her father took
her to the place, and afterwards went with her to Broadmeadows, where the child was given over to the Foundling Hospital authorities. Witness went under the name of Moon at Nurse Arscott's. Nurse Arscott said that in May last year accused introduced himself to her as .Mr. Moon, and arranged for the accommodation of his daughter. Blanch Manly, registrar of births, deaths and marriages, St. Kida, stated that on 22nd June a child was registered in the name of Dorothy Maloney by a man who gave the name, of Wm. Maloney, and signed the register as the father. Before registering witness read the caution that any. false statement would be perjury.
Detective Coonan deposed to accused having on 12th inst. admitted registering his daughter's child in the name of Dorothy Moloney, so that the family should not he disgraced. Witness reminded him that, he made a. false. registration, and lie answered, "I know I did." He then stated that he did not know the name of the father of the child. Until-. Detective Sainslmry told him, accused was not aware that- the child was dead.
Accused. was committed for trial
Now, I have searched Vic BDM, plus everywhere else I can think of chasing info in this article but cannot seem to find anything at all.
As you can see from the first paragraph, this was not the first time that year that this family was under scrutiny (and there's more...but that is not for today).
Can't find a birth or a death, in any combination of names.
If anyone can suggest anything at all I can try, I would be most grateful.
Cheers,
Julie
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There is this one
Record information
Event: births
Registration number 14270 / 1906
Family name: MOLONEY
Given name(s) Dorothy
Place of event: ST KILDA, Australia
Personal detail
Mother's name <Unknown Family Name>, Mary
Mother's family name at birth OSHANESSY
Father's Name: <Unknown Family Name>, Wm
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Another article on TROVE, as well as the one already quoted, says that the child died:
...the child was registered by Spillane in the name of Dorothy Moloney. Spillane stated that the father resided at the Victoria Coffee Palace. The child's mother remained with the nurse, (Mrs. Ashworth, registered nurse of Inkerman Street, St. Kilda) until 23rd August, and went to St. Joseph's Foundling Home at Broadmeadows, where the baby subsequently died.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/147914174
I cant see a suitable death though. I wonder what happened to the mother of the baby. So sad.
Judith
Edit to add - From an on-line tree (haven't checked any of the information) I see her with 2 marriages and death noted as 1970, still in Victoria
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This other article on the same subject confirms previous information given above and shows a lenient inclination towards Wm SPLILLANE at this level of the court system.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/144508005
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Thanks All!
I got the same in results. She apparently married the twice (Richard Duncan Neil AVERY and Jonathan Kent, although somewhere I have the name Eric Bosher as well). She died on 5 July 1980 so was abt 90 when went.
William, the father, was a very lucky man in that he didn't spend much time in gaol. As well as the son running away after being neglected, and the daughter pregnant at 16, he was then prosecuted for receiving stolen goods and disposing of same. The last being after he coerced his second eldest eldest (Thomas my grandfather) into stealing 5, or thereabouts, gramophones from his place of employment.
I can see that this may be one of those unsolvables, however, I will try the archives for the Foundling Hospital at Broadmeadows and see if I have any joy.
Thanks again!
Cheers,
Julie
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Australian Death index and Victorian Wills have the death for Eileen Marie BOSHER as 5 July 1970, 'married', living at Mitcham.
She is buried at Burwood cemetery.
https://www.gmct.com.au/deceased
Judith
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One Eric BOSHER is also listed on the same search engine.
https://www.gmct.com.au/deceased
But at Footscray EDIT Fawkner Cemetery. He died 1973
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Me again,
I can't thank you all enough for these leads. I've been out of the action for a few years now (you know how life can get in the way!) and I was having trouble getting started. Thanks for the kick start. I'm really grateful.
Eileen was always a bit of a mystery. I was only 8 when my grandfather died (her older brother) so I had no idea about anything really. I only found out anything (and it was only hints at that) at all when my mother passed and I inherited all her papers and photos.
I guess what I'm trying to say is she's seems like a good one with which to restart my research.
I'll let you know how I get on.
:) Julie
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Information from E roll is available which probably, but not definitely, relates to Eileen Marie/Mary.
Happy to type it up for you if you wish, but I see no further details for a death record for little baby Dorothy, which was your original line of inquiry.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Thank you, I would most be grateful if you would type it up - as long as it's not too much trouble.
As for young Dorothy, I think I will try and contact the archives for the Foundling Hospital which wa run by the SSOJ. The nuns usually have a good handle with the archives of their various institutions so I might be lucky.
Thanks again for your help with this.
Cheers,
Julie
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1917 Neil Richard Duncan AVERY appears on the Vic E. Roll as a sawyer at Yarram.
1919 he is at the Pastoral Hotel Echuca as a Hotel Manager. Also at that address George Charles and Catherine Ada AVERY
He joined the WW1 forces and his record is digitised here.
https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection
Marriage
Neil Richard Duncan AVERY
Marie Eileen SPILLANE
1919 Victoria
2421
1922 Roll Vic.
Neil Richard Duncan AVERY. 45 Edward St Caulfield West. Fruiterer
With Eileen Marie AVERY. HD
1925 to 1927
Eileen Marie AVERY. 1 Jervois Street St Kilda. HD
1931 to 1934
Neil Richard Duncan AVERY is at Yarram where he is a fisherman. There are others of the surname in the area, but not Eileen Marie.
The couple divorced in 1934
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243316407
Eileen Marie AVERY, late of Charnwood Cres, St Kilda, could not be located in 1939
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243463455
I will search out the next few years now.
Sue
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Sue,
Thank you so much, I really appreciate this - she's starting to come To life for me now!
Cheers,
Julie
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Going backwards.
A possibilty only
Marriage
Jno Wm KENT
Marie Eileen SPILLANE
1915 Victoria
10573
Electoral Roll Vic.
1917 Aileen Marie KENT. 25 Sercombe Gr. Glenferrie. HD
No othes.
John William KENT has a WW1 service record (see link above)
His NOK is Eileen at the address above.
Their divorce in 1918-
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155141256
Sue
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Eric Samuel Millard BOSHER, a clerk, shows on the Electoral Rolls with another who may be his father from 1919 to 1937. At addresses in Armadale and Whitehorse Rd Mitcham
By 1943 he is at Bourke Street Melb. with no others of the surname.
In 1949 he is at Alexandra Mansion, South Melb. No Others of the surname
Eileen Marie BOSHER on the Electoral Roll-
1943 248 Toorak Rd. South Yarra. HD. No Others of the surname BOSHER
1949 at 62 Victoria Pde. Melb. A dealer.
1954 Eileen Marie and Eric Samuel Millard BOSHER are both at 589 Whitehorse Rd Mitcham
1963 and 1968 the same entries.
Sue
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Vic bdm deaths:
15190 / 1970 Eileen Marie BOSHER; Father-William Joseph SPILLANE; Mother- Cecelia GAUNT; Mitcham, Australia
Deaths 1806 / 1972 Eric Samuel Millard BOSHER; Father-Frederick Charles BOSHER; Mother-Caroline Richmond; Donvale, Australia
Prov Wills and Probates https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates
Short link: https://tinyurl.com/yanpokk6
Eileen Marie BOSHER Date of grant: 04 Sep 1970; Date of death: 05 Jul 1970; Occupation: Married; Residence: Mitcham
Eric Samuel M BOSHER Date of grant: 28 Mar 1972; Date of death: 24 Nov 1971; Occupation: Rtd; Residence: Mitcham
Short link: https://tinyurl.com/yaefg6u5
Divorce files (can be ordered) https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/divorce-files-and-cause-books
Case No. 1918/132
Eileen Marie KENT Party: Petitioner , John William KENT Party: Respondent
PHYSICAL ITEM
DATE: 1918
SERIES: Divorce Case Files, Melbourne
AGENCY: Supreme Court of Victoria
CITATION: VPRS 283/ P2 unit 4, item Case No. 1918/132
http://access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/component/daPublicBaseContainer?component=daViewItem&entityId=1160242732
Case No. 1933/572
Eileen Marie AVERY Party: Petitioner , Neil Richard Duncan AVERY Party: Respondent
PHYSICAL ITEM
DATE: 1933
SERIES: Divorce Case Files, Melbourne
AGENCY: Supreme Court of Victoria
CITATION: VPRS 283/ P2 unit 199, item Case No. 1933/572
http://access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/component/daPublicBaseContainer?component=daViewItem&entityId=0160322646
Cheers :)
CoL
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This is marvellous! Thank you all so much.
I now have lots to look up and find out.
It's terrific to be able to flesh out the details of someone about whom you previously knew nothing at all.
Thanks again, everyone, for your help.
I'll let you know how I get on.
Julie
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https://billiongraves.com/grave/EILEEN-MARIE-BOSHER/2021254
Eileen Marie Bosher
Died: 5 Jul 1970 age 80
Beloved wife of Eric
Burwood Cemetery
Cheers :)
CoL