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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: LisaMarieHopkinsMusic on Thursday 14 May 20 14:17 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
I'm trying to find the parents of my grandmother Ivy Thomas.
All the info i have is that Ivy was born 4 March 1927,
Ivy Thomas married Joseph Hopkins September 1946 in Caerleon.
Ivy died in Jan 2003.
Any help would be appreciated.
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If you purchase the marriage cert, you will get her father’s name:
Sep 1946 Caerleon 8c 528
HOPKINS Joseph H
THOMAS Ivy
Jamjar
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There are 2 Ivy THOMAS births showing for Wales, 1927 on FamilySearch. One with mmn as HOOPER, Pontypridd and the other JONES, Pembroke.
Do you know of siblings for her?
Jamjar
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Thank you for your reply Jamjar.
Yeah I may just have to order the certificate. Just thought I would try my luck here first.
I don't know of any siblings unfortunately, the information I've mentioned is all I have.
I have looked at Ivy Thomas' born in March 1927 but without knowing their exact D.O.B's, I can't pinpoint which one is the right one.
Thanks for your help
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have you looked for her on the 1939 register?
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There's a tree on Ancestry that states her parents as Osborne Thomas and Phyllis Mary Jones - no other details on them.
Annette
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The only Ivy Thomas I can find on the 1939 register living in Monmouthshire is Ivy Doreen Thomas living in 34 Raglan St Newport with her widowed mother Daisy Thomas and her brother Trevor (born 1924), an errand boy. Only fly in the ointment is Ivy's date of birth recorded as 2 May 1927.
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The only Ivy Thomas I can find on the 1939 register living in Monmouthshire is Ivy Doreen Thomas living in 34 Raglan St Newport with her widowed mother Daisy Thomas and her brother Trevor (born 1924), an errand boy. Only fly in the ointment is Ivy's date of birth recorded as 2 May 1927.
I think she has been looked at on an earlier thread :)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=794016.msg6953827#msg6953827
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Thank you for your replies.
So, I ordered her marriage certificate and it does state her father as Osborne Thomas as Annette said. Its states his profession as a tailor master and also deceased at the time of marriage but now I’m struggling to find concrete information on him.😫
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Me too ::)
Hes hard to find.
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well, there's an Osborne Cyril Thomas born Tenby who was a tailor
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9B2-9V3 - 1901 in Tenby
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7NT-KC6 - 1911 in Llanelli
He died age 58 march qtr 1943 vol 11a pg 995 & was buried in Tenby 18 March 1943, note on burial record that he died 16 March in Swansea Hospital.
Possibly this birth reg, mentioned before, in registration district covering Tenby
Ivy Thomas june qtr 1927 Pembroke vol 11a pg 1995 mmn Jones
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if her parents were Osborne Thomas & Phyllis Mary Jones, I think they did not marry.
Birth reg Phyllis Mary Jones dec qtr 1906 Pembroke vol 11a pg 1244
marriage Phyllis Mary Jones dec qtr 1930 Pembroke vol 11a pg 2389 to James Francis
There's a possible son registered the following year
1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7J5-K3J
marriage reg
Seth John Jones dec qtr 1902 Headington vol 3a pg 1822 with Nellie Frances Ramsey on the same page
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Thank you Osprey, I did come across these records of Osborne Thomas too, been trying to work it out all day but as you’ve said, there is no marriage between Phyllis and Osborne.
Thank you for the links for Phyllis, will have a look into them now.
May have to try and order Ivy’s birth certificate for confirmation of her Mother
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think that's the only way you'll know for sure. It could be that Osborne was present at the registration so that his name is on as father.
Phyllis seems to be living with her parents for the 1939 register. There's one closed record under Phyllis, probably the son born 1931.
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Just an update! So, I received Ivy's Birth Certificate today and it states that Phyllis Mary Thomas (formerly Jones) and Osborne Thomas are her parents.
I still can't find a marriage for Phyllis and Osborne though, I assume they never did marry.