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Title: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: debs14 on Tuesday 12 May 20 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi can anyone tell me if this uniform belongs to one of the above as cant find any records.
My great uncle Tom Linford Barnes,B1923 Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire.
Many thanks
Debbie xx
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:05 BST (UK)
Service records for anyone serving after 1920 are still with the MOD.

See: https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:10 BST (UK)
Almost certainly Royal Navy - can you read the cap tally on the photo?

MaxD
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: debs14 on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:12 BST (UK)
Hi KGarrad, cant get any info from them as i dont have a sevice number,he has family alive but i have no contact with them, all i have is a couple of photos one of him, and one  in uniform hence the reason im searching, ive posted on photo section to see if can be cleaned up, Many thanks Debbie x
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: debs14 on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:14 BST (UK)
Hi MaxD, i cant tell from the picture ive put photo on Photo section to see if anyone can clean up and tell me any info any help greatly received as id love to know he always told me stories but dont want to put on here incase it clouds replies.
Many thanks Debbie xx
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:39 BST (UK)
Hi KGarrad, cant get any info from them as i dont have a sevice number,he has family alive but i have no contact with them, all i have is a couple of photos one of him, and one  in uniform hence the reason im searching, ive posted on photo section to see if can be cleaned up, Many thanks Debbie x

You don't need service number!
The forms ask for Service No OR date of birth ;D
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: debs14 on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi KGarrad, Many thanks il send them a request,also ive had a message saying Royal Navy according to someone on Photo section,but if not them do they have records for Merchant Navy also please,
I have had a reply from People on Photo section on here apparently the pic ive posted is to small to do anything with so struck out there and cant get a proper sized one.
Thanks Debbie
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: seaweed on Thursday 14 May 20 18:08 BST (UK)
I would agree. Almost certainly Royal Navy. I have run his name and DOB through on line Merchant Navy records with negative responce.
A last resort. IF he was Merchant Navy he should have a form CRS 10.
Depending on when he joined it should be here.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10990289
or
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10988308

When TNA reopens you would need to visit Kew To view. Like I say, a long shot.
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: debs14 on Thursday 14 May 20 18:29 BST (UK)
Hi seaweed,many thanks for your reply, can you tell me if the uniforms are the same, i dont know when he signed up he was at home with family 1939 census working locally, thats as much as i know at the moment, im waiting for  a break through on this unfortunately no family members left to ask either, i will take a look at links you have given me, i have contact NA kew, they say that the likely hood of findin anything in Merchant records is slim as they dont have many,i tried posting picture on Photo section on here but to small for them to do anything with and i dont have original to use either. I have  tried all military records on Ancestry also zilch found,  i have sent messages to several Naval website but no response, im not sure what else to do xx
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: seaweed on Thursday 14 May 20 18:57 BST (UK)
 As advised by K Garrard.You need to get hold of his RN service record from the MOD. Take it from me Not all record are available from Ancestry or other sites. Sometime you need to visit archives or wait awhile for a responce.
Title: Re: Royal or Merchant Navy Please
Post by: debs14 on Thursday 14 May 20 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi Seaweed, thanks i have spoken to TNA online chat on the website, and as i dont know which he served they cant help me, I can however send a form and £30, but like you say they say its not a fast service, i may have to bite the bullet and do this, when i can get to library and download,print off the forms, unfortunately im house bound till the madness ends due to a heart condition, once again thanks for your help
Debbie xx