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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: lanarman on Tuesday 05 May 20 02:58 BST (UK)
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In Griffiths Valuation, 1862, there is a Quinton Stevenson leasing a house, office, land from a Hugh Montgomery in Lismavallaghan, Dunaghy parish, Co. Antrim. He also is the immediate lessor (next line) and leases to a Nathaniel Morton. Next line is a William Stevenson leasing from same Hugh Montgomery.
In the 1825 Tithe Applotments, same townland, is a Robert Stephenson. I presume this is their father.
Does anyone connect these two Stevensons to a father named Robert and can tell me more about Robert?
(there is an older thread on this board with a Quinten Stevenson but I think he is a different person)
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These look like possibilities:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1851/09402/5405800.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1858/09543/5459726.pdf
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Thanks gaffy: I think the William Stevenson marriage is correct but the Quinten Stevenson marriage to Hessie Knox is a different person. I just found Quinten's will on the PRONI website and he died in 1877.
Also- the 1825 Tithe Applotments show Quinten next to Robert and William. So I now presume they could be brothers (or Robert is the father of the other two) and it's Robert that I'm looking for.
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For reference-
The Will of Quintain Stevenson late of Limavallaghan County Antrim Farmer deceased who died 5 November 1877 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of John Maxwell Farmer and David A. Heaney Schoolmaster both of Limavallaghan (Clough) same County the Executors. Will mentions son Robert.
Probate of the Will of Quinton Stevenson late of Charles-street Ballymoney County Antrim Salesman who died 26 January 1899 granted at Belfast to John Thompson M'Cracken of Union street Ballymoney Clerk. Will mentions Wm. Stevenson.
Quintin Hugh Stevenson born Charles St., son of Quinton & Hessie (Knox)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03399/2246464.pdf
1851 census extracts- Limavallaghan townland-
http://www.ulsterancestry.com/free/ShowFreePage-79.html#gsc.tab=0
#3 John Stevenson
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Newtown_Crommelin/Linnavallaghan/3/
#9 Quintin Stevenson
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Newtown_Crommelin/Linnavallaghan/9/
#10 William Stevenson
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Newtown_Crommelin/Linnavallaghan/10/
#11 William Stevenson
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Newtown_Crommelin/Linnavallaghan/11/
#13 William Stevenson
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Newtown_Crommelin/Linnavallaghan/13/
National Archives transcriptions not good- see original images from links given
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In the 1851 census abstracts, Quintin Stevenson's age shows him born approximately in 1796 and William Stevenson in 1785. I assume that they are the sons of the Robert Stevenson whom I am looking for. I say this because of two Pre 1858 Wills:
1. Will of Moses PAUL of Skerry in 1826. Executors were Archibald ELDER and R. STEVENSON.
2. Will of Archibald ELDER, Ahoghill, in 1830. Executors were John PAUL and Robert STEPHENSON.
John Paul was the oldest son of Moses Paul and John was born in 1777. He had (a son, I believe) named William Paul who appeared in the 1825 Tithe Applotments in Tullykittagh townland adjacent to Lismavallaghan (Limavallaghan). Only 11 names separate Wm. Paul and Robert Stevenson in the 1825 Tithes. There are other Robert Stevensons in the Ballymena area but for some reason I think this Robert (in Lismavallaghan) is the one named in the 2 Wills mentioned above. There may be a blood relationship between Elder, Paul and Stevenson but only DNA matching might be able to prove that. If Moses Paul and Archibald Elder died as old men in 1826 and 1830, respectively, then Robert Stevenson was probably of their age/era and born in the 1750's.
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lanarman, I am curious if you have been able to connect Quintain and William Stevenson to the elder Robert? Quintain's son, Robert, was my g-g-grandfather. That Robert was a doctor, who died in Tullykittaugh, and is reported to have been buried in the Clough Churchyard burying grounds in 1880.
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nkiaora- unfortunately the answer is no. The records are so scarce for that time period that I believe the only avenue to prove this is DNA matching. I will do a more thorough check with my DNA sites and report back to you.
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Clough Cemetery Plot Owners 1875-1937 list a Robert Stevenson from Limavalaghan with plot # 385; 2 graves. No date given. Not sure if this is your Robert.
I see that the 1880 Will of Dr. Robert Stevenson of Tullykittagh left his estate to his wife Grace.
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I see that the 1880 Will of Dr. Robert Stevenson of Tullykittagh left his estate to his wife Grace.
Robert Stevenson left no Will and his widow Grace was granted letters of adminstration to administer the estate according to law-
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Robert Stevenson late of Tullykittagh County Antrim M.D. deceased who died 14 June 1880 at same place were granted at Belfast to Grace Stevenson of Tullykittagh the Widow of said deceased.
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Thank you very much lanarman and aghadowey for the reply, and information. Family lore is that Robert Stevenson's wife Grace had died in childbirth, but I have not been able to find any information to verify that. Family had always assumed that she had died when she had my great grandmother, Elizabeth, in 1877, but by those Letters Of Administration, one assumes that she was still alive when he passed in 1880. I have not found any death record for Grace (Dunlop) Stevenson, nor do the family have any idea where Elizabeth was during her childhood. I will keep searching. Thanks again
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Checked Robert's death certificate to make sure wife was alive when he died and yes, he's married-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06480/4864331.pdf (Stevinson)
Ballymena Observer, 21 Aug.1880: STATUTORY NOTICE TO CREDITORS... said Robert Stevenson, who died on or about 14th day of June, 1880, at Tullykittagh, aforesaid, intestate, and whose Estate Letters of Administration were granted to his widow, Grace Sterenaon, of Tullykittagh, aforesaid, on the 16th day of August, 1880...
Checked deaths and marriages from 1880 onward for Grace on Irish Genealogy without finding her. Took a look at the 2 Valuation Revision books that covered before and after 1880 without even seeing Robert Stevenson listed although writing was faint in places. Then I searched the townland of Limavallaghan (residence when he married) and found 7. Quinton Stevenson changed to a John Maxwell in 1880, 9. William Stevenson changed to a John Maxwell in 1870. So, no clues there as to where and when Grace left Tullykittagh after Robert died.
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This might be a possibility for you, nkiaora:
The 1877 marriage registration between Robert Stevenson and Grace Dunlop gives her father's name as James Dunlop. On Oct. 15, 1904 there is a marriage registered between a Grace Dunlop, age 60, WIDOW and a John Coile both from Carnageeragh, Parish of Loughguile, Ballymoney. All Saints Church, Church of Ireland. The interesting part is that Grace Dunlop, WIDOW, gives her father's name as James Dunlop. If this Grace is a widow and James Dunlop is her father, then who was she the widow of? (I guess that it's Robert Stevenson but more proof is needed.)
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Good find for Grace!
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10211/5716958.pdf
Which perhaps leads to this record for Grace Steinson with brother John Dunlop in Carnamena- says both born Co. Down-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Corkey/Carnamena/944319/
Death of John Dunlop in 1905 with informant sister Grace Coyles-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05581/4567640.pdf
Then to this record in 1911 for a widow Grace Dunlop in Carnamenagh-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Corkey/Carnamenagh/128100/
and death of widow Grace Dunlop in 1920-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05119/4408063.pdf
Added- death of a John Coyle from Corkery in 1906-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05556/4559166.pdf
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Wow. Very plausible theory for Grace. It all fits into place. The only mystery now is about the family story that she had died during childbirth. That information was from Grace's daughter, and has been passed down the generations. One other confusion, is that on her marriage registration, her father is listed as James, in the marriage announcement in the Belfast News-Letter (Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland), 29 May 1877, it states that she is the second daughter of Mr.John Dunlop, late of Newtowncrommelin. I wonder if that John was actually some other relative listed by mistake.
Great getting some answers for this mystery lady. Thank you so much for all of your help.
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I browsed through all the original Griffiths Valuations scanned images for Newton Crommelin up to 1880 and found a Joseph Dunlop in Scotchomerbane and a JAMES Dunlap (Dunlop) in neighbouring Skerry East Townland. No John's. This James Dunlop's property was transferred to a James Wallace in 1864 and then to a Hugh Barnes in 1866. I presume James Dunlop died pre 1864- but this is speculation at this point.
You mention that in the 1877 newspaper announcement that Grace was the daughter of John Dunlop, LATE of Newtown Crommelin. I assume this means that he was dead at that time. There were 4 John Dunlop deaths registered in the civil registrations in Ballymena pre 1877 and 2 for a James Dunlop pre 1877. Only one fits for a pre 1864 death (to tie in with a land transfer in 1864, noted above) and that was in 1864 for a James and he was 63 years old. The scanned image for this registration is not online. But I would do more research first to verify if this is "your" James. My guess is that "John" was a mistake in the newspaper announcement.
I also cannot find a birth circa 1877 for an Elizabeth Stevenson. Perhaps her birth Mother did pass away in childbirth and the Stevenson's raised her? (just a theory).
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Birth of Elizabeth Stevinson on 21 Nov.1877-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02990/2095671.pdf
(I searched for Ste*son 1877)
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That simplifies things. Good find. Not sure how I missed that, but....
So who did Elizabeth marry?
nkiaora: I do have some distant "hits" for Stevensons from Antrim on one of my DNA website matches. Might take some time but I have sent a private message to the match and waiting on their reply.
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Lizzie Jane Stevenson married 1900 Samuel McVicker-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10350/5767938.pdf
In 1901 Lizzie Jane McVicker is with her uncle John Stevenson in Dunbought-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clough/Dunbought/929101/
Son Robert born there in April 1901-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01957/1755213.pdf
By 1911 they have 5 children-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Broughshane/Elginny/119404/
Son David born 1912-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01475/1600778.pdf
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Elizabeth and Samuel had eleven children. After David was born in 1912, all of the others were born in Scotland. Son Robert was killed in the Hassockrigg Colliery in 1922. The family emigrated to USA and Canada in the twenties.
Great investigating. I am going to quiz the family about the story that Grace died in childbirth. Perhaps someone has more information that can clear this up.
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There probably is a thread of truth to these family stories. Perhaps it was Grace's mother that died in childbirth? Just a thought.
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Robert Stevenson's father Quintin died Nov 7, 1877 and exactly two weeks later on Nov. 21, Robert's daughter Elizabeth was born.
Also- notice that in the 1851 Census there is a James Dunlop, age 20, servant, living with a John Stevenson (age 30) and his wife Mary Ann (age 28) in the same townland. ???
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Update: Although I have found no more new information on this Robert Stevenson, I have found a Robert STENSON in Broughdone townland in the 1825 Tithe Applotments who might be the person I am looking for. Can I assume that STENSON is an abbreviated form of STEVENSON?
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Interesting. I have hand written notes from a great aunt who said that their Stevenson family was sometimes referred as Ste'enson, or simply Steenson. So your finding makes sense.
If you have done DNA, see if you can find any matches to any persons named McVicker, or Noble. Several of my family (McVicker) have done DNA.
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In Griffiths Valuation, 1862, there is a Quinton Stevenson leasing a house, office, land from a Hugh Montgomery in Lismavallaghan, Dunaghy parish, Co. Antrim. He also is the immediate lessor (next line) and leases to a Nathaniel Morton. Next line is a William Stevenson leasing from same Hugh Montgomery.
In the 1825 Tithe Applotments, same townland, is a Robert Stephenson. I presume this is their father.
Does anyone connect these two Stevensons to a father named Robert and can tell me more about Robert?
(there is an older thread on this board with a Quinten Stevenson but I think he is a different person)
I have DNA matches that Ancestry suggests are connected to me via the mother of a Quinten Stevenson. It says Quinten’s parents were Robert Stevenson and Rose Morton. I’m interested in Mortons from Clough near Ballymena.
There is a Robert Butler Stevenson who has a will in 1875. The primary beneficiary is Nathaniel Morton. But there are several Nathaniel Mortons as well as several Quinten Stevensons.
I think the ones related to me are all based in Ballymoney, but it must be the same family. Quinten is a very distinctive name, and there is a Mary Morton visiting a Stevenson family in Lismavallaghan on the 1851 Census,
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Wish I could help you, Doublebassy, but I have found no new clues for my Robert Stevenson. But Clough is the area where my PAUL family originated and I have reason to believe they were closely connected (maybe even related) to the MARTIN family of Martinstown. I realize that MORTON's are a different family.
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Perhaps you could send me a private message with your ancestry DNA username and maybe we have a mutual ancestor from Clough? Thanks.