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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: AncestorHall on Monday 04 May 20 09:46 BST (UK)
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Hi
I've been researching my Hall ancestors in Cavan Monaghan area, mostly come from Lattacapple and surrounds, I'd appreciate any help from someone who may have covered them before!
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Hi,
Am trying to find out if David Hall 1800-1883 of Coppenagh Mills is the son of William Hall 1769 and Arabella Hall of Lattacapple? They had a son David Hall but his birth works out as 1797 from census 1821?
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Hi
Does anyone know of a David Hall marrying a Florence Hinton around 1880's either in Cavan Monaghan region or possibly England. He could possibly be a son of Joseph Hall 1834 and Margaret Edgerton from Lattacapple-Coppenagh or his brother John?
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
David Hall's death in 1883 was in Coppanagh townland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06373/4828868.pdf
Lattacapple and Coppanagh townlands are on the Cavan/Monaghan border.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/tullygarvey/drung/drumcarn/lattacapple/
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/tullygarvey/kildrumsherdan/drumcarn/coppanagh/
KG
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Thank you for your welcome and the info. I'm surprised I haven't discovered this chat room before. It makes a change to communicate with living souls in ancestor search rather than deceased ones! :)
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Don't see a Florence Hilton marriage in Ireland.
A David Hall son of David married a Florence Hill in Cork in 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10711/5904936.pdf
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Thank you for that post, I think David Hall - Florence Hinton may have connected in England, I know the descendants all live there. For me I'm trying to link this particular David Hall directly back to Hall family in Cavan, Coppanagh area as my dna results are all showing link to here.
Much appreciated,
William
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There is a David Hall and a Emma Florence Hinton on the same page Sept 1892 Hackney 1b 1006.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Marriage 1892 Hackney September quarter 1b pg 1006
David Hall and Emma Florence Hinton
Marriage 1st September 1892 Stoke Newington
David Hall , Commercial Traveller - father Joseph Hall, farmer
1911 Index shows David Hall, 50 yrs b Cavan.
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For interest, there is also
George Hall and Edith Isabel Harvey marriage 1896, Islington
Children
1898 Cynthia Iris Egerton Hall
1901 Ruth Esme Egerton Hall
1911 index shows George b Cavan
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There is a Joseph Hall in Lattacapple
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Drumcarn/Lattacapple/1047192/
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Birth of George Hall - parents Joseph Hall and Margaret Edgerton
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03418/2253837.pdf
1901 204/15/22
David Hall is a Woollen Merchant
1901 204/137/43
George Hall is a Merchant Tailor
Both in Stoke Newington and both are employers
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Margaret appears to have died 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05812/4645115.pdf
and Joseph 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05459/4527659.pdf
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Guys, that's fantastic, well done, just the information I was looking for to tie DNA connnections together! Thank you so much, David Hall is a key person for my search, you certainly can teach me a few things on how and where one can search!!
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I too have been researching the Hall family of Lattacapple for a long time. I am a descendant of William and Arabella's son William, who farmed in neighbouring Magherintemple. Although William junior is not shown in the 1821 census, he is found in an 1814 list in the Drung Parish register.
The lack of records and the repetition of forenames, esp David, had until recently made identifying the subsequent life of most of the other children of William & Arabella almost impossible.
But DNA links (on Ancestry.com) connect myself with descendants of David the miller/farmer in Coppanagh. I now have little doubt that this David was a son of William & Arabella. His age in later records does not quite match the 1821 census, but people's ages were often wrong - so a few years difference is of little consequence.
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Further to my post saying I was confident that David Hall, miller, of Coppanagh, was a son of William & Arabella Hall of Lattacapple, it has been pointed out that this is very unlikely and I now agree.
William & Arabella's son David was still living with his parents as a "labourer" in the 1821 census. The Coppanagh family have a separate history, indicating they were more prosperous, with more valuable assets, than the Hall family in Lattacapple.
There must be, however, some link between the families to explain the inheritance of shared DNA.