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Title: Lost Matthews family
Post by: homeguard on Tuesday 28 April 20 18:58 BST (UK)

Hi, I am having trouble finding a Eliza Matthews in on the 1891 census, in 1901 she is living at Green Lane Walsall aged 40 with her children Elizabeth 16, Florence 12 John 6 and Harold 2. I think I may have found her in 1911 again with Elizabeth and Harold but under the name Elizabeth Stone, I found a marriage in 1884 to a Samuel Stone which could explain it, but I have had no luck going back further, if the marriage is right she may be with Samuel and children in 1891 but I cannot see them, any help would be much appreciated many thanks.

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 28 April 20 19:15 BST (UK)

Could this be them in 1891

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W7FP-F6Z

1901 census


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQN-24D

1911 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQN-24D

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 28 April 20 19:38 BST (UK)

Hi Eliza was a Widow in 1901, who was the Elixa married to a Samuel  Matthews at Green Lane Walsall in 1891?
Census ref RG12/2252/34/14
Keyboard86

EDIT a Samuel Matthews aged 19 married an Eliza Stone aged 21 8th December 1884 Rushall, St Michael

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: Capetown on Tuesday 28 April 20 19:55 BST (UK)

1891 Census, Walsall Foreign - District 20
Page 15 of 19

49 Green lane

MATTHEWS

Samuel - M - aged 24 Coal Miner born Walsall
Eliza - wife - 26
Lizzie - 5
Florrie - 1

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: Capetown on Tuesday 28 April 20 20:00 BST (UK)

GRO Index

MATTHEWS, Florence Minnie - mother's maiden name: STONE

GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in Walsall, volume 06B Page 695


MATTHEWS, Alice - mother's maiden name: STONE
GRO Reference : 1887 M Quarter in Walsall - Volume 06B - Page 683

MATTHEWS - Elizabeth Ann - mother's maiden name: STONE
GRO Reference: 1885 - S Quarter in Walsall - Volume 06B - Page 686

(Marriage given in previous reply - on Family Search.

Eliza STONE aged 21 - father: John Stone
Samuel MATTHEWS aged 19 - father: Richard MATTHEWS


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Two others on GRO Index for Walsall - mother's maiden name: STONE

MATTHEWS, Bert - 1891

MATTHEWS, Samuel - 1893


can't see any more.....


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GRO INDEX has for Walsall

MATTHEWS, Samuel - aged 37 (ten years out - may be should read 27??)
GRO Reference: 1893, J quarter in Walsall, Volume 06B - Page 444

and

MATTHEWS, Samuel - age - 0
GRO Reference: 1894, M quarter in Walsall Volume 06B - page 476

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 29 April 20 15:27 BST (UK)

The Samuel Matthews death in 1893 shows this burial:-

Samuel Matthews 13th May 1893 Rushall, St Michael aged 37 abode Rushall
Keyboard86

EDIT Also GRO births:-

John Henry Matthews March qtr 1895 Walsall mmn STONES
Harold Matthews June qtr 1896 Walsall mmn STONES

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 29 April 20 20:57 BST (UK)

Hi again, John Henry Matthews aged 16 is shown as Stepson to Albert and Eliza Cooksey in 1911, another child is May Lilian Cooksey Dec qtr 1904 Walsall mmn Stone

Eliza must have had a liking for younger men, as Albert is 27 and Eliza 48.
Keyboard86

EDIT A Samuel Matthews died March qtr 1897 Walsall aged 29

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: homeguard on Thursday 30 April 20 18:59 BST (UK)

Thanks so much for all your input, most helpful, its finally answered a few things that had me stumped hopefully its more plain sailing from now !

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: keyboard86 on Thursday 30 April 20 19:26 BST (UK)

Hi just to help you out:-

Eliza Stone baptism 23rd November 1862 Coseley Christ Church

Elizabeth Ann Stone baptism 31st January 1858 Coseley Christ Church
Both Father John Mother Jane
Family at Princes End Road, Tipton in 1871
Census ref RG10/2996/82/44
Keyboard86

Title: Re: Lost Matthews family
Post by: homeguard on Friday 01 May 20 10:44 BST (UK)

Hi, just the info I needed, once again many thanks.