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Title: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 14:40 BST (UK)
I am searching for the death of a George Wood Royal Marine Artillery born 1832 Alverstoke Hants.
Married to Elizabeth Phillips 1857.
I have a death in Peiho in China 1859.
Anyone know how to confirm if this is the George Wood that I am searching for. 
Thanks. 
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 28 April 20 14:42 BST (UK)
Is Elizabeth shown as a widow on the 1861 census
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 14:54 BST (UK)
Thanks Carol but wondered if census M or a W.
She also has another child in May 1862 naming George Wood as father.
 remarriage in the June 3 weeks later.
Would love to confirm the father.
12 years hunting answer.     
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:09 BST (UK)
There is an 1861 entry for an Elizabeth Wood aged 48 b Devon & living in Alverstoke shown as wife of gunner in RN
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:19 BST (UK)
They married in Alverstoke RD in 1857,  where did Elizabeth remarry and to whom.

Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:21 BST (UK)
I see you posted in January about George and I asked for some information but you did not reply  :)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=824763
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:23 BST (UK)
Tom Grant Hellier in June 1862.
One month after naming George as father at baptism. 
I would think divorce rare although he ison ship in 1862.
Assume it was his death in China
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:26 BST (UK)
Been searching for years,  pick it up between arrival of  grandchildren and lockdown ,!!! 
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:33 BST (UK)
If it is your Elizabeth Wood(s) living in Forton in 1861 occ Beer House Keeper bn Forton with son George also bn Forton and sister Mary Phillips then census states she is W (widowed). Married people on the same page are showing as 'Mar'. 
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:38 BST (UK)
Yes, that’s the one.  Question is who was the daddy ???
George Wood or Tom Grant Hellier. ?? To Tom  Hellier Wood 1862
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:41 BST (UK)
Do you have George Wood's service record
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:48 BST (UK)
No, that’s the main part of the problem.  I wrote to RM in Portsmouth
But nothing
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 15:52 BST (UK)
What information does his marriage certificate give for him. 

Where do you have him on the census

ADDED Who were the marriage witnesses
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 16:01 BST (UK)
Married to Elizabeth Phillips Dec 58 private RMA of Gosport. Father John Wood
Child George Wood 1859
Child Tom Grant Wood Birth 1 May 1862
Baptism 18 May 1862
Elizabeth marriage to Thomas Grant Hellier 26 June 1862

Elizabeth 1861 is M or W but George Wood not present
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 16:24 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry has him born Hampshire but links him to the George who is in the RM in 1851 Alvechurch but born Guildford, Surrey. 

I wonder where he was born.  ??? 

Have you linked the marriage witnesses to George or were they Elizabeths relations/friends.  What was his father John's occupation.

Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 16:31 BST (UK)
I have him born in Portsea Island.  1831
Father John Wood.
A Carpenter on cert.
Mother. Mary Sullivan

I have dated death of George
After conception September 1861
Remarriage June 1862
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 16:40 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Wood is supposedly a widow on the 1861 census.  That child born 1862 could have been anyones  :-\

Do you have George Wood in 1851. 
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 16:51 BST (UK)
Yes, that has been my hangover for 15 years. 
Who was the daddy. 
I have a stab at it every few years. 
I am thinking  his death in the China drug wars

Thanks for fresh pair of eyes on this.
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 28 April 20 17:03 BST (UK)
I think it's a giveaway by virtue of his name that Tom Grant Wood b 1862 was the son of the Thomas Grant Hellier Elizabeth married a month later

I have seen other instances of deceased husbands being shown as the father of illegitimate children on birth certs when they clearly died before the conception of the child







Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 28 April 20 17:05 BST (UK)
I think it's a giveaway by virtue of his name that Tom Grant Wood b 1862 was the son of the Thomas Grant Hellier Elizabeth married a month later

I have seen other instances of deceased husbands being shown as the father of illegitimate children on birth certs when they clearly died before the conception of the child


I was just going to post that I thought the 1862 child was her new husbands having seen his names  :)
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: verarose on Tuesday 28 April 20 17:30 BST (UK)
Yes, that’s how I see it.
Always sad though that some poor bloke dying in China war while at home ..........
Thanks for input
Title: Re: George Wood
Post by: Woods3465 on Thursday 27 January 22 15:02 GMT (UK)
I'm interested to locate info on Thomas Grant Hellier-Woods, if anyone has anything?