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General => The Stay Safe Board => Topic started by: sugarfizzle on Tuesday 21 April 20 11:34 BST (UK)
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1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house
2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not
3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open
4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work
5. You should not go to the Drs or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there
6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable people. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster
7. Gloves won't help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes or not
8. STAY HOME, but it's important to go out
9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some
10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it affects
11. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11)
13. You will have many symptoms if your get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms...
14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it's better not to go out shopping
15. It's important to get fresh air but don't go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic
16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication
17. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out
18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including Pizza...
19. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver
20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance
21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours ... or four hours... six hours... I mean days, not hours... But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry... in the air, as long as the air is not plastic
22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores to be education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am
23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am
24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don't know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that's what they will die of… the people who die of corona who aren’t counted won’t be counted
25. You should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected
26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music.
27. No business will go under due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will have already gone under.
Regards Margaret
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Thank you.....all perfectly clear......I think. ::)
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That's how I understand it. ;D
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In other words, no one has the faintest idea how to tackle it, so covering every possible eventuality in order that no blame can be apportioned if it spreads.
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Just about sums it up nicely, Margaret :)
Some 'stuff' maybe arriving from Turkey but it might be coming via the Amazon which is quite a long river.
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That's the biggest 'load of old tosh' I've ever read. No wonder confusion exists in all cases.
Does anyone ever think constructively outside the box before flapping tongue?
It's looks like the free thinkers are all doomed.
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Oh, I had read it through, and had not found any old tosh at all. I had a good giggle at quite a few of the tongue in cheek 'rules' offered there. Mind you, Perhaps my giggle was caused by outside influences, afterall less than a week ago I ventured out to accompany my husband to our GP for our annual flu injection as it is mid Autumn and his receptionist had phoned to say 'your injections are here now' and she added ... if you have masks, good idea to wear one, safety glasses too. If not, phone me as you arrive and we will pass you a disposable mask each.
We had masks, so we used ours. But watched as she passed masks to the next couple .... all in sealed packets and on a long handled thingymahhhjiggie.
Dr had mask, face shield and apron. Plenty of hand sanitiser, and printed signs DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING.
So, we did not touch anything until we got back to our car.... where were the keys.... phew .... found them... in his shirt pocket.... that was the only confusion we experienced,
JM
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I should add that Dr said the function of the mask is to stop you touching your face with your hands which may have accidentally touched a surface or in some other way become contaminated since the last time you washed your hands with soap for twenty seconds...
JM
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It may get dark before morning, but maybe it won't ??? ??? :-X :-X
Carol
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It could rain one day.
>:(
JM
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And of course, all those 'regulations' from Margaret differ from country to country ::) ::) ::)
A couple of days ago I went to my GP to get the 'over 65' flu shot and he said his practice had not seen even one case of the corona virus.
And the local hospital testing station had not come up with any for weeks, either.
Good news! :) :)
Dawn M
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... And where are all the cack-handed souls who can't make their own supposed to obtain masks to wear? I have a few from spray-painting, but not sure if they'd fit the bill.... beak or nose?
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... And where are all the cack-handed souls who can't make their own supposed to obtain masks to wear? I have a few from spray-painting, but not sure if they'd fit the bill.... beak or nose?
I hope you're not referring to those of us who prefer to use our left hand, rather than the right :-\ :-* Or am I a coddy-handed person (not sure of the spelling of that one)? :-\
Please don't take offence, I am attempting to be flippant :-X
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I would suggest that the fact that we have been in lockdown for over a month yet we are still getting around 4,000 new cases every day suggests something isn't working as it should be.
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BumbleB, I happily use my left hand for many things, virtually ambidextrous - except my own handwriting is equally illegible with either hand. My father and grandfather were both left-handed... and so was Leonardo da Vinci. You're in good company.
TY
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Thanks Margaret, your summary makes it all a lot clearer. I admit I was a bit confused before reading it, but now I understand completely ;D
I guess you must be one of the government's advisors . . . ::)
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Very pleased that I hadn't upset you :) I had an experience a number of years ago, when I managed to break my left wrist at a Cycling Club Dinner (don't ask ;D). Was booked on a cross-Channel ferry the next morning, and told by the hospital that I probably wasn't going to attend!! Yes, I did and led the dancing that night at a French cycling club do. Came home and went to work as usual. Attended hospital a few weeks later, and told that I could now go back to work. "Go back to work - I've never stopped" "What do you do" "I'm a secretary" "How have you coped?" "Typed with one finger and one hand, plus used right hand for shorthand". "OK, then carry on" ;D
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It was a wrist injury to my right hand in mid teens that led me to discover that I could write, draw and paint as well with my left - so I carried on using both!!
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I am glad there is no one else on the bus I am commuting to work on .. first post has given me the giggles. Hilariously confusing advice! Thanks for taking the trouble to post all this. ;D
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Thanks Margaret, your summary makes it all a lot clearer. I admit I was a bit confused before reading it, but now I understand completely ;D
I guess you must be one of the government's advisors . . . ::)
That's supposed to be top secret.
Regards Margaret
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Thankyou for making me giggle (especially at point 12)
;D
That's all I seem to hear : Don't do this unless you can, don't go there unless you can ...
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I should add that Dr said the function of the mask is to stop you touching your face with your hands which may have accidentally touched a surface or in some other way become contaminated since the last time you washed your hands with soap for twenty seconds...
JM
I thought mask-wearing by public was to stop us breathing & coughing over folk.
"Some say" that wearing a mask may make some people touch their faces to adjust it.
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Thankyou for making me giggle (especially at point 12)
That's the one rule I've kept religiously. I've not had a tiger to tea for years. Must be why I haven't caught it yet. The virus, not the tiger, I mean.
The burning question is, how did they find out about the tiger? Which brave soul swabbed the tiger's throat?
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Thankyou for making me giggle (especially at point 12)
That's the one rule I've kept religiously. I've not had a tiger to tea for years. Must be why I haven't caught it yet. The virus, not the tiger, I mean.
The burning question is, how did they find out about the tiger? Which brave soul swabbed the tiger's throat?
;D ;D ;D
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"Some say" that wearing a mask may make some people touch their faces to adjust it.
Some don't have to say! Just take a look at people on TV or out and about if there are any mask wearers near you.
Mask on, pull it down at the front to talk, push it up again.
Wear it round your neck like a scarf, push it up when anyone comes near.
Pull it down by the front to answer the phone, put phone back in pocket, push mask up again.
No doubt get home, remove mask, probably wash hands (who knows what people do?), get phone out, make a few calls, cuddle the baby.
Etc, etc
Regards Margaret
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My neighbour wore a mask for the first time on Friday when she went supermarket shopping.
The problem she had was her glasses steamed up and she couldn't see a blooming thing ;D
Dorrie
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I've resisted taking to a mask so far - I never breathe through my mouth, and feel that they're not a really effective thing, and I get the feeling that there's an over-confidence with many wearing them. I think I'll be more likely to wear gloves, as I usually do.
(If I promised neither to breathe in nor out, could I be excused masks?) .... oh, hang on a minute, there's a flaw in that.... should I also apply for a government advisor post?
TY
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Talking of masks - I saw a gentleman the other day wearing a "variation" - he was using a tubular bandage :)
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Mr G has just informed me that our illustrious university's scientists (University of Newcastle) have identified that this little b gets in via two 'bits' in the nose. I can't find the ref to it so far. He may have got a note about it via e-mail though :-\
It could, of course, be Fake News ::)
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Here it is
Scientists, including experts at Newcastle University, have discovered that goblet and ciliated cells in the nose have high levels of the entry proteins that the COVID-19 virus uses to get into our cells.
The identification of these cells by researchers involved in the Human Cell Atlas Lung Biological Network could help explain the high transmission rate of the virus.
https://www.ncl.ac.uk/press/articles/latest/2020/04/nosecellscovid-19/
so no poking fingers in noses!
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Well as a Specialist asked me,after recurrent nosebleeds”Tell me, do you pick your nose?”
I told him I often wrapped my finger in my hankie and then tidied up inside.
“ Never put anything smaller than your elbow up your nose!”
I have remembered that!
The membranes are so delicate.
Viktoria.
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"And just like that, money, fame, power & beauty are worthless...
Mother nature's message to us all:
You are not necessary.
The air, earth, water & sky without you are fine.
When you come back,
remember that you are my guests.
Not my masters."
Anon.
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Mr G has just informed me that our illustrious university's scientists (University of Newcastle) have identified that this little b gets in via two 'bits' in the nose. I can't find the ref to it so far. He may have got a note about it via e-mail though :-\
It could, of course, be Fake News ::)
Addition to "Summary of the advice, rules &c.": When going out in public, wear a peg on your nose. Remove peg and wash it upon return home.
I thought that there are cells or membranes in noses whose function is to trap infections. Hence breathing through nose healthier than breathing through mouth. Could it be that, not having encountered this novel coronavirus before, that usual defence mechanism doesn't switch on?