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Title: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: KathyM on Sunday 12 April 20 09:36 BST (UK)
Not sure if this is Samuel Haslam (1864-1919) or one of his sons....
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: DanNC on Sunday 12 April 20 12:48 BST (UK)
My guess would be that it's one of the sons. I think bowler hats were most popular in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. That photo reminds me of a photo of one of my great-grandfathers and two of his brothers-in-law, a small copy of which I'll post below. Two of them have bowler hats like the man in your photo. The two in front would've been in their early 30s when this photo was taken around 1912.  The subject in your photo looks about the same age to me.
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: KathyM on Sunday 12 April 20 16:03 BST (UK)
Thank you.....his eldest son died at Gallipolli when he was only 22, so not sure if this is him (he looks older than that)

Here is another photograph of Samuel - taken when he was older.  His masonic insignia is from the RAOB.  Is this the same man???

His second son - l don't think looks anything like.
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: DanNC on Sunday 12 April 20 16:05 BST (UK)
The two sepia photos look like the same man. The black and white one looks like someone else. I'm not very good at dating photos and that sort of thing. I'll defer to the experts.   ;D
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: KathyM on Sunday 12 April 20 16:07 BST (UK)
His other two sons.....the one in uniform died aged 22.  The youngest (1902-1981)
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 12 April 20 19:41 BST (UK)
Going back to your first photo my thought was 1880's-90's.
Separate button holes for watch chains first arrived late 1880's.
I don't think it's any later than 1890's as the jacket & waistcoat
are wrong for the Edwardian era.
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 12 April 20 22:30 BST (UK)
My first impression of the man in the first photo was that he looked to be in his mid- late 30s and that it was an 1890s image.
Carol
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: Ian Nelson on Sunday 12 April 20 23:10 BST (UK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Antediluvian_Order_of_Buffaloes
It is not a Freemason organisation.   They styled their organisation on the English model of Freemason's Lodges, Provincial and Grand etc! but have a different constitution but they were and still are mainly a Benevolent operation donating to worthy causes  ...  aka The Buffs. That name is also given to the East Kent Regiment and Kilwinning Rangers Junior Football Club.
Title: Re: Date needed to identify Haslam family member
Post by: KathyM on Monday 13 April 20 10:24 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone.......Samuel would have been 30 in 1894 - I think it is him.