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Title: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: argentina on Tuesday 07 April 20 19:18 BST (UK)
Dear all, Its been many years since I posted here, and you have given me much success.
William Rice born Louth 1869/70 in Louth Lincolnshire.
I have him in 1881 he was scholar in Louth
In 1901 he is a soldier in furlough in Louth
But we cannot find anything about him in the 1891 census or in any military records...please help x
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 07 April 20 19:44 BST (UK)
William's Military record is on Find My Past -- enlisted in Lincolnshire Regiment 7 July 1888 aged 18 years and 10 months.

He was a Roman catholic. 5ft 6in tall, grey eyes, brown hair. Left in July 1901 -- but may have rejoined - I will check that out.
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 07 April 20 19:52 BST (UK)
Yes he rejoined on 28 5 1906, aged 36. He was married by then --- wife's name Harriett Ann Rice, 3, Edward St Louth.

Not sure when he left at the moment.

Added -- second record is incomplete -- no date of leaving I'm afraid.
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: argentina on Tuesday 07 April 20 20:18 BST (UK)
Thank you Pennines.
I have just looked at Find My Past and joined for 2 weeks but they still wont let me look at records.
Is there anyway you can send me a copy of what you have found eg copy of record please?
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: argentina on Tuesday 07 April 20 20:20 BST (UK)
Is there a way of finding out what he was or did in the army?
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 07 April 20 20:52 BST (UK)
I don't think I am allowed to copy full records on the Forum -- I will send you a personal message.
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 07 April 20 23:32 BST (UK)
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8F-F7S

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-BL77

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WTG4-6ZM
Possibly William: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WZFY-6W2

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDZ-MXF
William with brother: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDQ-N7P

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YN-42S
William: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YX-1S7


Dec 1856 Caistor 7a 1231
RICE John
AVEY Mary Ann

Deaths:
Mar 1904 Louth 7a 405
RICE John 67   

Jun 1916 Grimsby 7a 761   
RICE Mary A    74

RICE, MARY mmn AVEY
GRO Reference: 1858  J Quarter in CASTOR  Volume 07A  Page 537
Death: RICE, MARY    0 
GRO Reference: 1858  J Quarter in CASTOR  Volume 07A  Page 366

RICE, MARTHA mmn ABEY 
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in CASTOR  Volume 07A  Page 558
Married:
Dec 1880 Louth 7a 1162
STIFF Frederick Arthur
RICE Martha
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WYMH-8T2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDD-N2Y
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YV-SMX
Children:
STIFF, STEPHEN mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in CAISTOR  Volume 07A  Page 616
STIFF, JOHN mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 636
STIFF, HARRIET mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1887  S Quarter in CAISTOR  Volume 07A  Page 651
STIFF, FREDERICK mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in CAISTOR  Volume 07A  Page 612  Occasional Copy: A
STIFF, MARTHA mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1891  S Quarter in CAISTOR  Volume 07A  Page 606
STIFF, WILLIAM mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1894  S Quarter in CAISTOR  Volume 07A  Page 583
STIFF, EDWIN mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in CAISTER  Volume 07A  Page 648
STIFF, MARY mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in CAISTOR  Volume 07A  Page 645
STIFF, ELIZA  AMELIA mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1899  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 614
STIFF, FRANCES  ANNIE mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1902  J Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 670
STIFF, THOMAS  BURNARD mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 662

RICE, BARNEY mmn AVEY 
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in CASTOR  Volume 07A  Page 574
Married:
Mar 1896 Louth 7a 855
RICE Bernard
FREEMAN Alice Thomasine   
Death:
RICE, ALICE  THOMASINA    80 
GRO Reference: 1944  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 635
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDQ-N7P
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YX-YNQ
Possibly Bernard: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YF-HTZ
Children:
RICE, JOHN  BERNARD mmn FREEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 617
RICE, ALICE  MARY mmn FREEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1898  J Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 603
RICE, ANNIE  ELIZABETH mmn FREEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1899  S Quarter in HORNCASTLE  Volume 07A  Page 546
RICE, MABEL mmn FREEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1901  J Quarter in HORNCASTLE  Volume 07A  Page 550

RICE, ELIZA  ANN mmn AVEY
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 568
Death: RICE, ELIZA  ANN    0 
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 360

RICE, JOHN mmn AVEY 
GRO Reference: 1867  J Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 586
Death: RICE, JOHN    36 
GRO Reference: 1905  S Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 332

RICE, WILLIAM mmn AVEY 
GRO Reference: 1870  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 590
Married:
Sep 1896 Louth 7a 1192
RICE William
CUMMINGS Harriet Anne
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YX-1S7
Children:
RICE, MARY mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 621
RICE, WILLIAM mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 621
RICE, JOHN  THOMAS mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1899  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 566
RICE, WINIFRED mmn CUMMINGS died 1902
GRO Reference: 1902  S Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 594
RICE, WILLIAM mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 582
RICE, ELIZABETH mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1906  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 555
RICE, MARGARET mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1906  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 556
RICE, CATHERINE mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1907  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 531
RICE, FRANCES  LOUISA mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1910  S Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 540
RICE, JAMES mmn CUMMINGS 
GRO Reference: 1913  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 1043

RICE, THOMAS mmn AVEY 
GRO Reference: 1872  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 565

RICE, ELIZA mmn AVEY 
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 583

RICE, BRIDGET mmn AVEY death 1878
GRO Reference: 1877  J Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 630

RICE, EDWARD mmn ABY 
GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 625

RICE, CHARLES mmn HALY 
GRO Reference: 1883  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 634

RICE, FREDERICK mmn ABY 
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 610

Jamjar





Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Pennines on Wednesday 08 April 20 12:08 BST (UK)
Good gracious Jamjar -- you have been beavering away -- well done!
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 April 20 13:09 BST (UK)
There is a Mary, daughter of John and Mary, ie sister to William, whose birth I can’t find.

As per 1911, there is a granddaughter, Ellen Magdalain Atkin, who is the daughter of the missing Mary.

Marriage:
Jun 1891 Louth 7a 1224
ATKIN Thomas
RICE Mary       

Death:
Sep 1906 Louth 7a 347
Atkin Thomas    39

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDZ-MFX

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YF-9VM

ATKIN, ELLEN mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1892  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 552

ATKIN, THOMAS mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 610

ATKIN, ELIZABETH  MARY mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 600

ATKIN, CHARLES mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1897  J Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 589

ATKIN, WILLIAM  EDWARD mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1900  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 593

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 April 20 21:20 BST (UK)
The daughter of John and Mary, as per 1911:

Possible marriage:
Sep 1911 Grimsby 7a 1417   
MITCHELL George H
RICE Elizabeth M

Deaths:
MITCHELL, ELIZABETH  MARY    51 
GRO Reference: 1925  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 740

MITCHELL, GEORGE  HENRY    61 
GRO Reference: 1936  S Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 592

Children:

MITCHELL, BERNARD mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1914  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1095

MITCHELL, GEORGE  EDWARD mmn RICE 
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1159

Jamjar

Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 April 20 21:26 BST (UK)
Edward, son of John and Mary, as per 1911:

Death:
RICE, EDWARD    67 
GRO Reference: 1946  J Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 607

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Pennines on Wednesday 08 April 20 21:34 BST (UK)
Jamjar -- you have worked SO hard on this query for Argentina.

I know I said it before - but well done again. I stopped at the Military record!
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 April 20 21:41 BST (UK)
Jamjar -- you have worked SO hard on this query for Argentina.

I know I said it before - but well done again. I stopped at the Military record!

Thank you, it keeps the little grey cells firing.  ;)

Jamjar

Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 April 20 22:08 BST (UK)
Possible marriage for Frederick, son on John and Mary, as per 1901:

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YN-NGZ

Marriage:
Dec 1908 Sheffield 9c 1017
RICE Frederick   
DOBSON Daisy

Deaths:

RICE, FREDERICK    45 
GRO Reference: 1929  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 705

RICE, DAISY  MARIA    65 
GRO Reference: 1947  M Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 03B  Page 298

Children:

RICE, JOHN mmn DOBSON 
GRO Reference: 1912  S Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1178

RICE, FREDERICK  THOMAS mmn DOBSON 
GRO Reference: 1916  M Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1016

Deaths of Martha and Frederick STIFF:

STIFF, MARTHA    69 
GRO Reference: 1929  M Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1150

STIFF, FREDERICK  ARTHUR    73 
GRO Reference: 1932  J Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 671

Jamjar
   
Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 08 April 20 23:06 BST (UK)
Thomas, son of John and Mary, as per 1891.

Marriage:

Jun 1895 Louth 7a 1387   

RICE Thomas
ADDISON Agnes

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSDZ-MMV

Children:

ADDISON, MARY  ELIZABETH     - 
GRO Reference: 1895  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 613

RICE, AGNES mmn ADDISON 
GRO Reference: 1898  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 571

RICE, THOMAS mmn ADDISON 
GRO Reference: 1901  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 569

RICE, FREDERICK mmn ADDISON 
GRO Reference: 1902  S Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 596
Death: RICE, FREDERICK    3 
GRO Reference: 1906  M Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 392

Agnes remarried:

Jun 1908 Louth 7a 1518
LOCKING William   
RICE Agnes    

1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YX-R3M

Deaths:

RICE, Thomas    29 
GRO Reference: 1902  D Quarter in LOUTH  Volume 07A  Page 349

Mar 1964 GRIMSBY 3B 250
LOCKING Agnes A    88






Title: Re: William Rice born c1870 Louth Lincolnnshire
Post by: argentina on Wednesday 06 May 20 14:02 BST (UK)
Gosh I wasn't expecting all of this.
Thank you so much...we had done quite a bit of research but thank you
I will sign this off if I can
Thank you again x