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Title: Death register
Post by: laineychr on Saturday 04 April 20 13:26 BST (UK)
My 2nd great grandfather died 1920 in Londonderry.. On the Catholic death and burial registers  it gives the date....his Name...., Ex.The Barracks. Then his age 86 when he was buried and where..

My question and excuse what may seem a daft one but.. where were the Barracks? would he have lived there? I don't think he was a soldier!
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: josey on Saturday 04 April 20 13:33 BST (UK)
Have you looked to see what the address is on
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/  deaths go up to 1969.

May be he was an ex soldier who worked at the Barracks, say as a nightwatchman?
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: laineychr on Saturday 04 April 20 13:52 BST (UK)
Can't find him on there. !920 seems not to come up. I found it on Ancestry select Catholic Death and Burial registers.. which only gives the registry entry and I'm not totally sure it's the right man yet.
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 04 April 20 14:02 BST (UK)


Death results in Londonderry from 1920 to 1920

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Title: Re: Death register
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 04 April 20 14:05 BST (UK)


That gets Address at Death

Title: Re: Death register
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 04 April 20 14:13 BST (UK)


All Males 70 to 80 on 1911 Census L/derry sorted by Surname...if you know Surname is he on Census and Where?

LINK   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pa2/

Title: Re: Death register
Post by: laineychr on Saturday 04 April 20 15:33 BST (UK)
Thank you.. I Know his name ( James O'Neill)and have him on 1901 and 1911 census, I have a death registration for him (who I thought might be him) in July 1920.. and His wife (Esther O'Neill) in july 1921 (in the Magherafelt workhouse which states she was married not widowed) So I have since found a death in Sept 1921 which maybe  him , although the age is out !::)  Still hunting till I can confirm it ha!

Thank you all for your help.
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 04 April 20 15:35 BST (UK)
Have you looked to see what the address is on
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/  deaths go up to 1969.

Irish records on Irish Genealogy only go up to 1921 for Northern Ireland counties (including Londonderry). For after 1921 see GRONI- https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

My 2nd great grandfather died 1920 in Londonderry.. On the Catholic death and burial registers  it gives the date....his Name...., Ex.The Barracks. Then his age 86 when he was buried and where..
My question and excuse what may seem a daft one but.. where were the Barracks? would he have lived there? I don't think he was a soldier!
If you give us the details you have found then we might be able to find more information such as death certificate, newspaper notice, etc.
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 04 April 20 15:47 BST (UK)
Thank you.. I Know his name ( James O'Neill)and have him on 1901 and 1911 census, I have a death registration for him (who I thought might be him) in July 1920.. and His wife (Esther O'Neill) in july 1921 (in the Magherafelt workhouse which states she was married not widowed) So I have since found a death in Sept 1921 which maybe  him , although the age is out !::)  Still hunting till I can confirm it ha!
Thank you all for your help.

I can't find either death in civil index- please post links to both or give more details so we can find them.

Closest I came to this one "death in Sept 1921" in Magherafelt district NOT Londonderry is this one died 22 Sept.1921 but he's married-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05086/4396209.pdf
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 04 April 20 15:50 BST (UK)
Thank you.. I Know his name ( James O'Neill)and have him on 1901 and 1911 census, I have a death registration for him (who I thought might be him) in July 1920.. and His wife (Esther O'Neill) in july 1921 (in the Magherafelt workhouse which states she was married not widowed) So I have since found a death in Sept 1921 which maybe  him , although the age is out !::)  Still hunting till I can confirm it ha!

Thank you all for your help.



So where was he then?

 Ex.The Barracks is only a previous address... it could be Ex Belfast or Ex Cork etc if he had lived Belfast or Cork

Title: Re: Death register
Post by: josey on Saturday 04 April 20 16:31 BST (UK)
I was just going by the website front page.....
The records now available online include:  Birth register records – 1864 to 1919; Marriage register records – 1845 to 1944 &  Death register records – 1878 to 1969
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Saturday 04 April 20 18:41 BST (UK)
I was just going by the website front page.....
The records now available online include:  Birth register records – 1864 to 1919; Marriage register records – 1845 to 1944 &  Death register records – 1878 to 1969

That site only has those records for what is now the Republic of Ireland. For Northern Ireland the marriages and deaths stop at 31.12.1921. Only GRONI has post 1921 records for Northern Ireland.

Give us a link to your James in the 1901 or 1911 census and we’ll see if we can locate a death that might fit.
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 04 April 20 19:00 BST (UK)


I have him in Derrygarve (Castledawson, Londonderry) too, Farm Labourer

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Castledawson/Derrygarve/608162/

...but I won't tell anyone.   ;D
Title: Re: Death register
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Saturday 04 April 20 19:53 BST (UK)
The death for Esther on 22.7.1921 gives her townland as Creagh. There is a James O’Neill listed in Creagh in the Valuation Revision records (plot 40 which was a house and just under 2 acres). He is listed there till 1929 which is when those records stop. So it might be the correct couple.

The workhouse admission records for 1921 are in PRONI.  Those records will be closed until July 1921 under the 100 year rule, though it is still possible to make an FOI request to view them. The records should show whether Esther’s husband was James.  (PRONI itself is closed at present due to Covid 19).

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Magherafelt/

If it’s the right Esther, James was alive in July 1921. There are quite a few James O’Neill deaths after that in the Magherafelt area, in the GRONI records. Closest to James aged 77 in 1911 was one on 15.2.1928, aged 88. That’s 10 years out but ages were often just guesses then so it might be him.  You would need to pay to view it to find out.