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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: Chris of Hants on Monday 22 August 05 12:11 BST (UK)
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Hobbs family of Market Lavington & Easterton from late 1500's plus associated names.
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Hobbs family of Market Lavington & Easterton from late 1500's plus associated names.
Please be more specific in your request. I'd be only too pleased to help but as it stands it could involve a large number of different names and locations over a number of centuries.
You may, for example, wish to start with a particular family group or a marriage etc.....................
Cheers Dave
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Sorry I should have been more specific, I have all the names for my family going back the centuries, plus names of women married into the family. Plus additional history relating to names of the villages mentioned.
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Hi Chris
As I understand it you have information available on this family and wish to share it and do not have any specific requests.
Cheers Dave
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hi Chris
I note that you have info on the Hobbs family.
Do you have a date of marriage for James Hobbs to Eliza Lane ? she was born in Market Lavington circa 1866, also when they both died.
regards
Myfi
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yes indeed!
I am currently in touch with someone who is a Hobbs, and the Hobbs you mention links up with my Hobbs ancestor in the 1600's.
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Hi again Chris
My interest is mainly the LANE family.
Eliza is a sister of one of my direct ancestors and on my tree I only include marriage partners of siblings, so I only need Marriage and death dates for James Hobbs and Eliza.
regards
Myfi
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Apologies!
When I saw the name Eliza Lane - I got mixed with Elizabeth Lane married to Benjamin Hobbs in West Lavington on the 26th July 1779, daughter of Richard and Jane Lane.
I can not find Eliza and James Hobbs.
Do you have any connections to Ontario, or Lancashire England?
Eliza as you may know was born on the 20th April 1865, daughter of William and Ruth.
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Hi Chris
Not to worry.
do you have any other details ie siblings for Elizabeth (married to Benjamin Hobbs)?
Sorry but I don't have any connections to Ontario or Lancashire
regards
Myfi
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I do have the names of the children of the mentioned,
one branch of the family went to Lancashire.
Also a James Hobbs went with the 41st Regiment of Foot to Canada and was involved in the War with America in 1812. They incorporated the Wiltshire Militia. Due to the close prolixity of Market Lavington and Easterton to Salisbury plain, many have joined Regiments over the centuries.
A John Hobbs being a trooper in the English Civil War with Prince Maurice for example.
I wonder if James Hobbs and Eliza Lane were married in a Military Garrison thus not on Civil Registers?
Do you know what James did? Maltser for example.
A person I know who is related to Ben Hobbs and Elizabeth Lane as direct descendants has relatives in Ontario to this day.
Also I know another Hobbs who is a direct ancestor. also.
I'll find the information for you soon.
Chris.
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William and Ruth Lane had children:-
Louisa Lane christened(c) 19-5-1872
Jane (c) 21-3-1868
William (c) 19-8-1866
Albert Henry (c) 3-5-1874
Robert who is on the 1881 census aged 6 living with William and Ruth at 2, Chapel Lane, Market Lavington.
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Hi Chris
Many thanks for the info, some of which I already have.
I had a query on Albert's second name which you have now confirmed for me.
regards
Myfi
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The only guess I can give you is that Eliza Hobbs (Lane) was in the Parish of Easterton in 1901. As was a James Hobbs - An Agricultural and Dairy Farmer. Easterton was a tithe of Market Lavington until the late 1800's. James having been born about 1860.
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Many thanks for that Chris.
all best wishes
Myfi
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Hi
Would any of your Hobb's family be connected with the Hobb's family in North Bradley or Potterne.
Cheers
Bryan
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Dear Bryan
I have been in contact with you before about Thomas Hobbs of Potterne born 1802. I know the Hobbs/Hobbes of the area go back until the 1600's, and odd clues come up to suggest they are linked to the Hobbs of Market Lavington and Easterton, its probably a question of when rather than wether.
Do you know there is a strong Hobbs predence at Bromham in Wiltshire also?
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Hi Chris of Hants.
I too am looking for the Hobbs name in Wiltshire, My Gt Gt Grandfather was William Hobbs 1784 to 1837, born in Alderton, the son of a John and Betty Hobbs. William joined the Wilts Militia in 1803, and transferred to the 23rd Regt of Foot, and was discharged in November 1807, after amputaion of a leg, on to a Chelsea out patient pension. He married a Jane Andrews shortly after his discharge, but I cannot find his marriege.
Have you come across William in your research of the Hobbs name?
Any information welcome.
Thank you
Yewtree.
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Good Morning Chris of Hants,
How much longer are you going to keep us in suspense ??? :D
Have you a William or haven't you ???
Hiya Yewtree, I wonder if the 23rd Regiment of Foot did a tour of duty in Ireland.
William may have fallen in love with Jane whilst there and returned to marry her when he was discharged. Andrews is a common name in some parts of Ireland :D
All the Best, Chris
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Dear Chris and Kath,
Sorry to keep you so long, I thought all messages were sent to my E-mail automatically.
I'm sorry that I do not have the William mentioned but I know that the 41st Regiment of Foot did a tour of duty in Ireland - and that some families in Market Lavington acquired land in Ireland for settling the Protestant cause.
Amusingly I got in touch with a Professor Andrews formerly of Dublin University about the Down Survey commissioned by Sir William Petty distributing land in Ireland.
It was to help someone about the Hobbs of Stogursey, Somerset who acquired land in Kilcormac. Some Irish Hobbs also went to Canada to diffend it from the U.S. also after land grants no doubt.
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The 41st Regiment of Foot came from veterans of the Marlborough Wars, namely from the Royal Hospital of Chelsea. It became the 41st on July 1st 1751. The regiment amalgamated with the 24th in 1969 and are now the Royal Regiment of Wales. In the War with the U.S. starting in 1812 the 41st had earlier travelled from Ireland to Canada on August 1799. Also part of the Wiltshire Militia was part of the Regiment. Of Course as you may know the 24th were at Rorke's Drift against the Zulu's later.
Interestingly the 24th Regiment came from Sir Edward Derring and the 41st from Colonel Edmund Fielding. A Derring and Fielding were present at the Battle of Cheriton in the English Civil War earlier, perhaps ancestors, as was John Hobbs in Sir George Vaughan's Regiment. The Regiment were at Lansdown, Roundaway Down, Bristol, 1st Battle of Newbury, Cheriton and Cropredy Bridge. The colours were a blue flag with the motto Experto Crede.
A James Hobbs of Market Lavington was captured at Moraviantown on the 5th October 1813 by the U.S. spent a year in a prison camp in America and was released in 1814.
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Hi, I'm looking for Benjamin Hobbs who married Sarah Arney in Downton, Wiltshire, in 1809 but he does not appear in Downton Births.
Do you know what happened to Benjamin son of Benjamin Hobbs and Elizabeth (Lane - I think) of West Lavington
Might he have moved to Downton?
Thanks
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I know of this branch of the family and if I recall correctly they stayed in the area and the subsequent Charles Hobbs moved to Lancashire. I will endeavor to find out the information I have stored somewhere.
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Many thanks, anything would be appreciated - even if it means there's no connection
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G'Day vouvray,
I have a Benjamin Hobbs in my line, the son of William and Jane Hobbs, but 'my' Benjamin was born in Alderton Wilts in 1833 and died in 1834
Yewtree
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Hi,
On the question of the Hobbs family. You can't tell if one of them crept across the county boundary into Somerset, by any chance? I have a Richard Hobbs who married a Mary of Lullington and had a daughter Elizabeth, b.1822 in Faukland. She married Elijah Parfitt of Clutton. Probably a wild goose chase, but you seem to have so much information on the Hobbs, I thought I'd try my luck. Many thanks in advance.
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I noticed the other names you have got- Carpenter is one of oldest names in Market Lavington, and the other names are familiar.
The Hobbs did indeed move westwards to Somerset for coal and stone mining, beer brewing (several malt houses in M.Lavington) and the railway expansion.
My family moved to Bath to be involved in the Victorian Housing boom. My brother recently lived on the outskirts of Bath, and I know of Clutton.
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Hi
Just picked up this thread.
I've got back to 1683 with Peter Hobbs (mother Jone) and Emma Price (B.1683) and can go no further, yet!
Peter is 8x Great grandfather.
My Hobbs moved to West Lavington circa 1779 with, or just prior to the marriage of Benjamin and Elizabeth.
Any further / earlier information would be very much appreciated.
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Other than Jone in 1683 when Peter was born, I'm not finding any other Hobbs in Market Lavington prior to this date.
I do find Hobbs in Stert, Bromham, Paulshot, Inglesham, Rowde, Aldbourne, Maries, Heytesbury, St Peter And St Paul, Marlborough, Calne, Malmesbury.
Locations determined by ref to IGI (so some will be individual entries rather than transcribed files).
The largest concentration circa 1660 is in Aldbourne.
I'm wondering if, as it appears, Jone was sent away from home to have Peter as no father is listed.
That being the case she must be linked to one of the other family groups in Wiltshire, but which one?
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Hello
Does anyone have information relating to Jone (spelling as IGI listed) Hobbs (born circa 1661).
I'm looking for parents and earlier dates.
Did the Hobbs move to Market Lavington about this date and if so where were they before this.
I've got the direct line back from 1900 but hit a brick wall at this point.
Jon
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Hello
I also have a direct line to Peter Hobbs and Emma Price. I’m stuck at Peter mother Jone as well. His will is at the Wiltshire Records Centre in Chippenham.
There are earlier Hobbes’s in Easterton and Market lavington
1: Roger Hobbes East Lavington (now Market Lavington) Made will 1573
2: William Hobbes Easterton died 20th November 1618 he had a son John Hobbes who was at least 30 years old or more
3: John Hobbs was buried 15th mar 1674 Market Lavington
4: John Hobbs of Easterton made a will 1683
5: John Hobbs Easterton made a will 1696
Any of the last three could have been Jone’s father. But sorting them out is anybody guess!
Just a word on Seymour (spelt as Seymor on his b/c) He married Mary Lane in 1870. Went to work in Wales (Glamorgan) about 1871/1872 where they had 3 children they came back to Wiltshire a settled in Devizes about 1877/1879 and had 2 more children.
Seymour’s mother Ann Wilkins died 1846, and his father remarried Mary Batt on May 25th 1850 at Littleton.
My direct ancestor Benjamin Hobbs move to West Lavington around about 1763/1765
I hope this has been of some help
TTFN
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Thank you for that info.
My guess is that they're all related in that area as the father back we go the less people in the genealogical pyramid.
Though we can't at present attribute any direct links, some broader idea of the greater family could be loosly associated.
Well that's my theory (for the moment) :)
Are there no references in the wills? I'd hope to see the records on file one day, but being 300 miles north it may be a while.
Mind you I do have a recently discovered brother in Hampshire so who knows.
Jon
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Hello
Peter Hobbs will only shows his wife and children. It can be viewed at the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre in Chippenham. I think there is fee.
TTFN
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Jone Hobbs located through Findmypast.
Baptism March 1st 1662/3 ((why 1662/3?).
I've also downloaded Perter Hobbs will of 1738 as being the only on line scan available. The rest must be ordered.
Thank you everyone for your assistance thus far.
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I forgot to mention Jone's father is given as John.
There is also a record of a Jone Hobbs burial July 8th 1692, Marlborough, St.Mary the Virgin - but as yet I'm not sure if this is the same one.
There is another Hobbs at the same location 1696 which may be linked.
There is a record of a John Hobbs of Easterton marrying a widow Ann Burden of West Lavington 24th November 1670.
This could be the same one (Jone's father). Otherwise John's birth and possibly previous marriage may fall into the 1640/60 void as I can't find a John Hobbs that fits the date frame. Any leads would be much appreciated.
My Hobbs moved to West Lavington possibly as early as 1738 ........ ref 2 wills of Peter Hobbs, the first made in Market Lavington and the other (the latter apparently more detailed) in West Lavington both dated 1738.
A general question.
Does Base Born mean illegitimate?
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I too may be related to John Hobbs of Easterton and wife Anne Burden. I believe they had a daughter Mary born 1680. I find no other record of children.
Does anyone know how to find if any Hobbs from Wilshire immigrated to Maryland, America say 1690 to 1700 ?
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This thread has been a fascinating read, and I have seen plenty of familiar names!
I too am descended from John Hobbs and Anne Burden, via their daughter Anne, who had a baseborn son, William, born in 1697.
I also recognise the names of James Hobbs and Eliza Lane, they were my great-great-grandparents!
The Hobbs are one of the most challenging families I've researched, with frustrating gaps in the records and many many illegitimate children. I love hearing about everyone else's adventures with this frustrating family.