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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: delen on Saturday 28 March 20 08:08 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any info. on the following - this is all I have on them, not sure if they were siblings or husband and wife, nor any idea of where they were born.
Marie Gilbert (Goldstein) born 1905
Victor Gilbert (Goldstein) born 1901
found them on 1939 register as living at Risby Cottage Quays Road Risby.
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There are also two others at the same address on 1939 register ( Mary and William Byers)
They are not on the village 1911 census.
Grateful for any help
Thanks
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Hi Delen
Can you please fully describe the 1939 Entry, including all margin notations. ie: the manner & way in which they paid are listed with two surnames? the birth dates,? what number are they in the household ?
We can respond to your information, but we can't be seen to be 'looking it up' ourselves and relaying that back, to fill in the blanks!
;)
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AMBLY
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1948: Naturalisation Certificate: Viktor Goldstein. From Austria. Resident in London. Wife's name Marie [Goldstein]. Children: **** Goldstein.
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AMBLY
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If any of their children were born in England Marie’s maiden name will be shown against the registration entry
I can’t see any obvious English marriage on freebmd so they may have married in Austria
www.freebmd.org.uk
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From the Register of Alien Internees , 1939-1945 :
Viktor Goldstein
b 15 May 1901 Prague, Austria
occupation : butler
address 6 Sandwich Street WC!
interned 21.6.1940
released 16.9.1940
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Thank you all for help given. The mention that Victor was a Butler make good sense now as I had always had an idea that they were both in service in "the big house"
thank you
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in the UK, WWII Alien Internees, 1939-1945
View UK, WWII Alien Internees, 1939-1945
Report issue
Name: Maria Goldstein
Gender: Female
Nationality: Austrian
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1905
Birth Place: Vienna, Austria
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Electoral Roll at 5/87 Guildford St, Camden, Holborn and St Pancras
Mary Gilbert
Viktor Gilbert
DEATH registered Jun Qtr 1979. Ealing
VIKTOR GILBERT
DoB: 15 May 1901 (age abt 77)
PROBATE:
Viktor Gilbert of 1115 Greenford Road, Greenford, Middlesex,
Died 24 Apr 1979,
Probate London 24 Apr 1979, £39949
Cheers
AMBLY
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NR230 is the code for a legal name change
ASA is the area code for : London, St Pancras. Met B
Cheers
AMBLY
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Thank you all, really good and very useful information
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Mary and Viktor were my paternal grandparents and I would be interested in any more information available. My dad John (Hans) is now 91 and is really keen to learn anything more about his parents time in Risby. He attended the junior school for a time and was christened in the church. He visited some years back and has I understand, seen the record of this in the church. He has fond memories of the Byers family for whom his parents worked. Does Risby Cottage Quays Road still exist? A quick look on street view seems to show a narrow road of post war houses only..... Hoping someone can add to our back story. Thanks in advance
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As you have found Quays Road looks relatively modern. Think cottage does not mean ancient. Have you checked full address from 1939?
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=52.26631&lon=0.64110&layers=168&right=BingHyb
Wonder if it is 'The Cottage' on that map?
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If you look on the summary census sheets for 1911, Risby Cottage is between Avenue Cottages and Church Cottages, lived in by Mrs Tollemache/Sollemashe.
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In 1901 census William A Tollemache age 83, retired captain, is living at Risby Cottage. He dies in 1911, before census. On 1901 census between Avenue and Church Cottages. He is widowed living with niece and 2 staff.
Church Cottages is Grade II listed:
https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101031433-church-cottages-risby#.X7EHYs5xeUk
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Thanks for the replies - I've passed the info to my Dad to see if he can work it out any further.