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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: Chris1286 on Friday 27 March 20 10:33 GMT (UK)
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Hi. Has anyone any information about a Clement Augustine Fry, born 15.6.1905 Kingswood, Bristol. He died in 1976 at 167 Hanham Road, Kingswood. I would to find his parents etc. Also has he any connection the a Florence Reeves nee Fry born 1875 Kingswood. She was my grandmother. Also Florence had a sister, born Mary Ann Fry 1884 Kingswood, she was also known as Mabel Fry professional actress, in 1901. Thanks Chris Reeves
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GRO Indexes Search shows:
FRY, CLEMENT AUGUSTUS (Mother's Maiden Name:) FRY
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in KEYNSHAM Volume 05C Page 533
If he is the Clement Augustine Fry, who married in Birmingham, in 1940 to Gladys Hall, then his father was named as Frederick Fry.
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Yes and he was also married before to a Rose Grace Powell. She died in 1939.
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Florrie Fry Jun 1874 Keynsham 5c 704 mmn Mortimer
Mary Ann Fry Mar 1884 Keynsham 5c 625 mmn Mortimer
Emeltom
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He died in 1976 at 167 Hanham Road, Kingswood.
Are you sure of the date?
There is a death with the birth date you quote registered Mar 1974 Kingswood
Burial 6 Feb 1974
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The birth certificate will confirm the name of his mother for you.
There are a lot of sisters of Florrie and Mabel and a brother Clement
6 year old nephew may be a clue but transcribed as "Gessie" :-\
I wonder if actress Mabel was his mother? But the birth will confirm for sure :)
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1881 Census
RG11/2447/F75/p5
Hanham Lane, Oldland, Keynsham
Richard Fry 38 Coal Miner Bitton
Mary Fry wife 38 Bitton
Virtue Fry dau 16 Bitton
Sidney Fry son 14 Kingswood Hill
Thomas Fry son 13 Kingswood Hill
Clement Fry son 11 Kingswood Hill
Fred Fry son 9 Kingswood Hill
Florry Fry dau 6 Kingswood Hill
James Fry son 4 Kingswood Hill
Lily Fry dau 1 Kingswood Hill
Richard Fry married Marianne Mortimer Sep 1864 Keynsham 5c 1105
Could Clement Agustus be the son of the Clement Fry aged 11 in 1881?
Emeltom
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There are 2 marriages for a Frederick Fry, in Keynsham Registration District!
December qtr 1895 and June qtr 1896
No marriages of Frederick Fry to a Fry spouse?
Birth Certificate is almost essential.
That 1940 marriage:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGDK-7B6Q
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I agree with the birth certificate or marriage banns usually names the father.
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The trouble with the marriage entry (not banns) is that the father could be fictitious. Birth would be better
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Usually but the birth registration found earlier has the same mothers maiden name FRY which indicates he was illegitimate.
People often made up a fathers name when they married.
Do you have both his marriages with the same father mentioned or just one?
The only other thing is if there was a baptism for him.
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On the GRO Indexes site, an illegitimate birth is usually indicated by a dash (-) in the Mother's Maiden Name field.
The MMN here was FRY.
It's possible that this was not her first marriage, but without knowing her name it is difficult to trace.
Lots of Fry-Fry marriages on FreeBMD.
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This is only my thoughts. I think Clement Augustine Fry was the child of Lillie Fry. Lilly later married Fred English her sisters widowed husband. If you look at Clement later life he lived at 108 Soundwell Road, which was the family home of his grandmother Mary Ann Fry, through time various children of Mary Ann lived there. James, Virtue. Clemnet does not appear in the 1911 census. Lily is living with her mother and there is a boy, whose DoB matches Clement's but his first name is unreadable? He is called a nephew of Mary Ann Fry.
Apart from that has anyone information about Mary Ann Fry 1884 professional actress?
Chris
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Why not get his birth certificate to be certain?
I think the nephew could be him although strictly he should be grandson not nephew :-\
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Just putting this thought up for info - not suggesting a definitive connection!
The Fry family, of the Bristol area, were Quakers.
They found Fry's Chocolate - and their (eventual) factory was in Somerdale, Keynsham.
Their original factory was on Newgate Street, and moved to Union Street in Central Bristol.
If your Fry family were linked to the chocolate family, there may be no baptism records, if they were also Quakers?
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I think that unreadable name is Gussie
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Hi. Has anyone any information about a Clement Augustine Fry, born 15.6.1905 Kingswood, Bristol. He died in 1976 at 167 Hanham Road, Kingswood. I would to find his parents etc. Also has he any connection the a Florence Reeves nee Fry born 1875 Kingswood. She was my grandmother. Also Florence had a sister, born Mary Ann Fry 1884 Kingswood, she was also known as Mabel Fry professional actress, in 1901. Thanks Chris Reeves
I believe Mary Ann Fry was my great grandmother I would also be interested as to what capacity she was an actress