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Title: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hancock12 on Tuesday 24 March 20 19:44 GMT (UK)
Hello Everyone,
I need help with the above person who is my G grandfather.
I have him on the 1901 Census in Ballaghmoon and also have his death certificate in 1902 in the same location aged 67.
What I am unable to find is his birth C.1835 and his marriage to an Ellen Byrne around the 1860`s as I am unable to locate the relevant parish records.

Is anyone able to offer any help/Advice?

Thanks in advance.

Les Hancock
Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 19:58 GMT (UK)


What children did they have?

Have you found Marriage for any of these, and if so, Where?
Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hancock12 on Tuesday 24 March 20 20:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Hallmark.

Please see below.
William b.1866 M?
Margaret b.1870 M.1901 Castledermot
John b.1872  M 1903 Castledermot
Patrick b.1874 M 1894  Castledermot
Elizabeth C,1881 M 1904 Castledermot (My Nan).

Hope this information helps and thank you for looking

Les
Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:05 GMT (UK)


This Search should find Patrick's Marriage to whoever her Married

on  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

click whichever one then click Image to view Cert

Irish Govt BDM Website..all Free

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:09 GMT (UK)


 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

this should find others

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:11 GMT (UK)


See what address they were from... then look at registers for there!

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:27 GMT (UK)


Hae a bash at searching then, Irish records are easy enough to find if you are given a chance to find them for yourself.

Then if you find one on someone's tree one has the ability to at least research them to see if it correct or not, etc


Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hancock12 on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Again,

I am looking for the marriage of my G grandad Patrick Murphy to Ellen Byrne circa 1860`s and have been trying for a few years now
Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:56 GMT (UK)


If it can't be found on a Search like this then probably pre1864 when reg started for RC's...

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:57 GMT (UK)


Sorry..this search
Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 21:59 GMT (UK)


Try Birth Reg for William b.1866 by changing criteria

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 22:03 GMT (UK)


Birth results for William Murphy from 1866 to 1866

LINK   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p83/

I see 2 Athy  which is District for Castlecomer, click Athy to get the 2, see if parents are correct
Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 22:08 GMT (UK)

yes Athy

Gets one the townland...

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 22:11 GMT (UK)


Should enable you to locate the relevant parish records.

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 22:16 GMT (UK)


https://www.logainm.ie/en/24905?s=Gotham

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 22:22 GMT (UK)


https://www.logainm.ie/en/1138  Ballaghmoon


Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 22:41 GMT (UK)


https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0459  Athy


Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 22:58 GMT (UK)


Birth results for William Murphy from 1866 to 1866

LINK   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p83/

I see 2 Athy  which is District for Castlecomer, click Athy to get the 2, see if parents are correct


Change criteria accordingly if you want to look for the others in Athy reg district  or them marrying about 20 to 25 years after birth...


Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 23:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Hallmark.

Please see below.
William b.1866 M?
Margaret b.1870 M.1901 Castledermot
John b.1872  M 1903 Castledermot
Patrick b.1874 M 1894  Castledermot
Elizabeth C,1881 M 1904 Castledermot (My Nan).

Hope this information helps and thank you for looking

Les

So you probably know who John married... so just add Surname to following, you only need to use 4 boxes or leave district blank if not in Athy District

For Mgt and your nan   enter father's surname and Murphy in mother's box  on

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/advanced-civil.jsp




Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 24 March 20 23:15 GMT (UK)


Irish Govt website...sate to use, free just solve security Captcha and use initials to sign in

Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 25 March 20 08:49 GMT (UK)
You dont appear to have Ellen 1864
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03615/2334069.pdf

possibly married Michael Keogh 1883
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10885/5975682.pdf
Title: Re: Patrick Murphy born C.1835 Castledermot/Kildare/Ballaghmoon/Athy/Knocknagee.
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 25 March 20 09:36 GMT (UK)


With gaps between others there could be more...or sadly even deaths.

This search will get Births, then change to Deaths.