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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Essex => England => Essex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: puellaanimae85 on Monday 16 March 20 14:05 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone have access to any birth/baptism records for Beauchamp Roding or Fyfield? I am trying to find the parents of Sarah Perry, born c. 1814 according to the 1861 and 1871 censuses. She married firstly James Brown and then Joseph Clark. Her marriage certificates say that her father was called William Perry and her daughters' birth certificates give her maiden name as Perry but we have been unable to locate her birth. We thought her parents were William and Letitia Perry, because she is living almost next door to them in 1861 and 1871. However, they had a daughter six years later, also called Sarah, which seems peculiar and all their other children have christening records. Can anyone help, please?!
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There was a Sarah Perry baptised at Felsted 25 August 1816. Parents William, a Labourer, and Sarah.
Emeltom
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The beauchamp roding registers only go up to 1812 unfortunately, but there is a william and Maria Perry who have a daughter Mary Anne nov 1811 there. And an honour perry who had an illegitimate daughter Esther, March 1811.
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Thank you both very much. It is so difficult to work out which she might be. William and Maria seem the most likely parents as she says her father was William and the name is carried down through the family. Maybe they had Sarah a couple of years after Mary Anne.
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The beauchamp roding registers only go up to 1812 unfortunately, but there is a william and Maria Perry who have a daughter Mary Anne nov 1811 there. And an honour perry who had an illegitimate daughter Esther, March 1811.
Other Perrys in BR - could be part of the family
There's a marriage of Mary Ann Perry (could be the one bapt in 1811) to William Norris on 22 Dec 1832. One of the witnesses was Rebecca Perry. Both Perry ladies signed their name.
William Perry b, otp marr Maria Thickings sp of Fyfield on 21 Jan 1811, one wit was Charles Perry, all made mark
Sarah Perry spinster married a James Crouchman wid on 2 Jul 1806 by lic. She made her mark. wit Martha Crouchman and Newman Seaden (?)
Charles Perry bac married Lydia Freels sp on 12 Oct 1809 by banns. One witness is Ho?? (could be Honour) Perry, all made mark
Honour Perry bapt 14 Aug 1791 d/o Henry and Sarah
Charles Perry (born 31 Mar 1789 ) bapt 25 May 1789 s/o Henry and Sarah
Henry Perry of Fifield marr Sarah Ockley otp on 16 Nov 1783
At Abbots Roding
George Day married Honour Perry on 19 july 1823. both made mark. No Perry witnesses
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Possibly the William who married Maria
William Henry Perry bapt at BR on 19 Feb 1786 s/o Henry and Sarah
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1841 census has a William Perry 50, Maria Perry 45, William Perry 20 and Charles Perry 6 in Wood End, BR. William snr is Ag Lab, William jnr no occupation listed. All bic.
In 1851, Maria is widowed, William jnr and Charles still with her, William is her son (unmarried) and Charles is her grandson.
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Sarah, parents William and Maria Perry, baptized Beauchamp Roding, 15 Aug 1813
Abode Beauchamp Roding
Father a Labourer
Image of BT is free on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLF-5L1?i=1205&cat=515991F
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Should be a William on the BTs b abt 1819 (with Maria on censuses).
Maria's baptism in Fyfield has her surname spelt as Thickens, bapt 6 July 1791 d/o Thomas and Rebecca (pauper). Maybe Rebecca Perry (witness on Mary Ann's marriage) was a sister and named after grandma.
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Baptism of a Rebecca Perry, 3 Nov 1816, at BR
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLF-5RZ?i=1214&cat=515991F
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Well done, so as I suspected Rebecca was a sister.
On page 1209 of the BT there's a burial of a Perry - July 17th 1814 age 65. Can't make out any of first name.
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Sarah, parents William and Maria Perry, baptized Beauchamp Roding, 15 Aug 1813
Abode Beauchamp Roding
Father a Labourer
Image of BT is free on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLF-5L1?i=1205&cat=515991F
Brilliant. Forgot family search (and I’m useless at searching it!)
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Another strange thing: Sarah and James brown married in high ongar in 1834 and then married joseph in high ongar in 1853. William perry father. There are loads of Perrys having children between 1799 and 1820s there. Lots of family names: John, Sarah, Charles. Must be related somehow.
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Thank you all so much! We thought we had hit a real brick wall on the Perrys but it certainly looks like our Sarah was the one born to William and Maria. We had suspected this might be the case but had failed to find the baptism. There certainly are a lot of Perrys around that area and trying to untangle all the connections between them is challenging! Sarah, after she married Joseph Clark (her second husband), was living next door to William and Letitia Perry and now I will have to see if I can find out what relation they were to her...perhaps the two Williams (her dad and the one next door) were cousins? Thank you so much again...I hope you are all keeping safe and well.
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William married letitia whall in 1815 in high ongar. Another high ongar link.
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William Perry 1794 fyfield born to abraham (baptised 25 Dec 1770 fyfield to Abraham and Mary nee Sutton who had another Abraham in 1765 and must’ve died before Abraham 1770 was born. Abraham and Mary married 1761 fyfield. Can’t find your original Sarah’s grandfather henry perry though) and Sarah nee greenwood. They were married in fyfield 15/11/1791
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Henry Perry of Fifield marr Sarah Ockley otp on 16 Nov 1783
See my reply #4
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Hi Lizzie
Didn’t explain myself very well. Sorry. Meant can’t find a baptism for Henry to link him with Abraham, William (who married letitia)‘s father.
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There is a Henry perry who dies in fyfield 1823, born c1763, which would fit in age reasonably with his marriage date. The only Henry I can find born at roughly the right time scale would be Henry perry b1762 great hallingbury. His father is richard and mother Elizabeth. Doesn’t help much with linking him to Abraham. There are Perrys in high ongar, fyfield, great hallingbury, Beauchamp roding. Maybe there’s just lots of them and it’s a common name. Maybe they’re loosely related rather than cousins?
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Thank you very much everybody. It has certainly shown that there were a lot of Perrys living around the Fyfield/Beauchamp Roding area! Our stumbling block now is discovering Henry Perry's parents. He might have been the one from Great Hallingbury, although he would also fit age-wise as one of Abraham Perry and Mary Sutton's children. I think we will have to look at the microfiche parish records at the Essex Records Office for this (we live in East Kent) and also go back on Maria Thickens' line (who married William Henry Perry). We have found her parents - Thomas Thickens/Thickings and Rebecca Loyns, married in Beauchamp Roding 24/05/1778. It is great to have several new lines of enquiry! Sarah
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I’ve been through fyfield, beauchamp roding, high ongar and great hallingbury parish records. Only great hallingbury had a Henry perry.
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Thank you very much everybody. It has certainly shown that there were a lot of Perrys living around the Fyfield/Beauchamp Roding area! Our stumbling block now is discovering Henry Perry's parents. He might have been the one from Great Hallingbury, although he would also fit age-wise as one of Abraham Perry and Mary Sutton's children. I think we will have to look at the microfiche parish records at the Essex Records Office for this (we live in East Kent) and also go back on Maria Thickens' line (who married William Henry Perry). We have found her parents - Thomas Thickens/Thickings and Rebecca Loyns, married in Beauchamp Roding 24/05/1778. It is great to have several new lines of enquiry! Sarah
Thomas thickings, who married in 1778, was baptised in willingale Doe on 18/3/1753 to Samuel and Elisabeth thickings. On his wedding record, it says that Rebecca was from willingale doe. Also found perrys there ... an Abraham but no Henry!