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Title: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: apodo on Thursday 12 March 20 11:11 GMT (UK)
Hi there guys!

My great-great-grandfather's name was John Dowd (latterly spelled Dowds). John is likely to have been born in County Armagh, Ireland around 1844, and moved to Glasgow around 1867 to find work, ending up in Garngad, Glasgow.

I know that he is buried in Sighthill Cemetery and have created a memorial for him on FindAGrave with everything that I could find on him thus far:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190599692/john-dowd

According to the 1911 census, he was an inmate in Barnhill Poorhouse, so I'm guessing that there might be some more information on him in their records: probably an admission record between 1901 and 1911, as he is not in Barnhill in the 1901 census. There might also be application for Poor Relief.

Is there any way that someone could have a look the next time they're in the Mitchell Library to see if they can find any more detail on him? This would be fantastic, as I find it difficult to access the Mitchell Library now.

Kindest regards,

David Gilmour




Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 14 March 20 21:01 GMT (UK)
Hi David

A really informative summary that you have added to that findagrave entry.

I can't help you with the poor relief or admission records that you search, but just wanted to add, in case you hadn't seen it, this possible 1905 valuation rolls entry for him:

John DOWDS
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE NO 262 GARNGAD ROAD
GLASGOW
1905
VR010200568-

Monica
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: apodo on Saturday 14 March 20 21:45 GMT (UK)
Hi there Monica.

That's very kind of you to come back to me.

I must admit that I hadn't seen that valuation roll for this John Dowds.

262 Garngad Road looked familiar to me when I saw it written down. John's son John (my great-grandfather) was living at that address in the 1911 census, so it might actually be him instead of his father.

May I ask where did you find that record? Was it on ScotlandsPeople?

Kindest regards and thanks again,

David  :)
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 15 March 20 14:36 GMT (UK)
Hi David if no one can help you I know the  Mitchell Library will do a look up and send you a copy for £15.00 .

Rosie
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: apodo on Sunday 15 March 20 14:59 GMT (UK)
Yes, I'm sure the Mitchell would be more than happy to take more of my money! I shudder to think how much I've given ScotlandsPeople over the years already!

David
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 15 March 20 15:04 GMT (UK)
Apodo - I'm afraid my knowledge of the areas of Glasgow is very limited -- but if you subscribe to Ancestry - go to Card Catalogue - input Scotland as a search term - there are some Poor Law records for North Lanarkshire and Electoral Registers for both North Lanarkshire and Lanarkshire.

You may find it useful to look down at all the various datasets on that site for Scotland, just in case any others are of interest.

I am sorry if none of the sets I have mentioned cover your particular area of interest -- but I do know that Glasgow is, or was, in Lanarkshire at least!
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: apodo on Sunday 15 March 20 15:06 GMT (UK)
Hiya that's kind of you to come back to me, but as far as I know, Ancestry only has released Poor Law records for certain parts of Lanarkshire, but not Glasgow. Unless this has changed since the last time that I looked at it. I'll have another look.

Thanks,

David
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 15 March 20 15:13 GMT (UK)
There are Valuation Rolls on Scotlands People - seem to have been taken at 5 year or 10 year intervals between 1855 and 1940. You can search by person's name.
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 15 March 20 15:32 GMT (UK)
there are some Poor Law records for North Lanarkshire and Electoral Registers for both North Lanarkshire and Lanarkshire.
I am sorry if none of the sets I have mentioned cover your particular area of interest -- but I do know that Glasgow is, or was, in Lanarkshire at least!
Glasgow is in the historic County of Lanark, a.k.a. Lanarkshire, but not in the present North Lanarkshire council area, which has only existed in its present form since 1995.
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 15 March 20 15:38 GMT (UK)
In 1893 Glasgow became the County of the City of Glasgow and parted company with Lanarkshire  Their courts were in Lanarkshire House in Ingram Street, now a fancy pub.
 I used to work with a Garngad Dowd many years ago.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 15 March 20 16:17 GMT (UK)
Yes, I'm sure the Mitchell would be more than happy to take more of my money! I shudder to think how much I've given ScotlandsPeople over the years already!

David

I think we are all the same I have spent quite a bit in the last week would have been cheaper going to the Mitchell Library  ;D....Such a pity I was there a few weeks ago checking out the poor relief records ..

Rosie
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: apodo on Sunday 15 March 20 16:30 GMT (UK)
Hi to all who have replied to me and thank you.

Interesting about Glasgow and Lanarkshire boundaries.

I'm sure I'm probably related to many - if not most - of the Garngad Dowds.

David
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 15 March 20 18:27 GMT (UK)
This Dowd was a coachbuilder in the railway workshops, along with half the Garngad!  ;
 Must ask if he's still aboot?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: ayrgenes on Monday 16 March 20 16:15 GMT (UK)
Hi apodo, I'm back in Glasgow for a couple of days. Can't promise but should be able to get to the Mitchell on Wednesday, it's looking promising so will see what I can find out.

davie
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: ayrgenes on Wednesday 18 March 20 03:26 GMT (UK)
Hi again, just been informed closure of Mitchell library 'till at least end of April. I'll keep you on my todo list and get there when everything back to normal.

davie
Title: Re: Barnhill Poorhouse Records lookup for John Dowd/Dowds
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 18 March 20 11:17 GMT (UK)
I somehow thought it would just be a matter of time before they closed their doors Davie it's getting pretty desperate now ..Stay safe everyone

Rosie