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Title: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: lankyloo98 on Thursday 05 March 20 11:27 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Can any one give my daughter advise on how to find out the age of the property she has just moved into and who lived there.
As far as we know it may have once been part/owned by the shop below, but the people who rent the shop now have no idea of its history. Tried asking the landlord but no answer on this.
The place is full of the character you would get with an older property  :)  and looking from the outside underneath her door step is what looks to be a bricked over cellar.
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 05 March 20 11:42 GMT (UK)
The records/building office should be able to tell you when it was built

If she has bought the property it should be in her deeds
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 05 March 20 11:44 GMT (UK)
It is not on the 1884 Ordnance Survey map, but is on the 1902 map.

Stan
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 05 March 20 11:46 GMT (UK)
You could look up the road on census and see if you can find it. 

I'm not sure how modern "a" as part of an address is though.  Has it been split or is it one complete building?
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 05 March 20 11:50 GMT (UK)
Can find the street but no high numbers as yet.

Maybe it was once a pub if it has a cellar!

There could be old photographs somewhere you can track down, local history groups, libraries are good sources. 
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: lankyloo98 on Thursday 05 March 20 11:51 GMT (UK)
Hi
I tried the census using the shop address below (322) as we are sure that this would originally been part of the same property, but found nothing
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 05 March 20 11:55 GMT (UK)
Is it on a corner - computer shop? 

I would try looking up old pubs just to see if anything comes up as it looks an ideal pub position.
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 05 March 20 11:57 GMT (UK)
I live in Tamworth, so I'll see what I can find.  I'm sure that the houses across the road have a date in the tiled frontage.  That should give us a clue.

Added:  I can always go to the library as well. 
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: lankyloo98 on Thursday 05 March 20 11:57 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Yes it is! Never thought of the possibility of it being a pub.
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: lankyloo98 on Thursday 05 March 20 11:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks BumbleB that would be great.
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 05 March 20 12:00 GMT (UK)
Hi
I tried the census using the shop address below (322) as we are sure that this would originally been part of the same property, but found nothing


Up to the 1975-76 map it is called Main Road.

Stan
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: lankyloo98 on Thursday 05 March 20 12:07 GMT (UK)
My daughter has asked me to pass on her thanks to everyone for taking the time to look up information. It is really appreciated. Thank you
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: lankyloo98 on Thursday 05 March 20 15:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you stanmapstone, I tried typing in the address using Main Road instead of Glascote Road as you suggested and I did find who lived at 321 Main Road, but still no 322, but its a start!
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 05 March 20 16:09 GMT (UK)
Just been down to have a look.  :o  The entrance to 332a is actually in East View, with 322 on the corner.  The houses across the road on Glascote Road have a year plaque of 1891.

NLS map published 1884 has no buildings on the corner of East View and Glascote Road.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101584516

But the NLS map published 1903 does have properties on the corner.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101597240

And Google Maps - definitely had a cellar.

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.6277006,-1.6739146,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s85-SGebalLgbSH62mCEnrA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 05 March 20 16:13 GMT (UK)
My reply #2 says
It is not on the 1884 Ordnance Survey map, but is on the 1902 map.

Stan
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 05 March 20 16:22 GMT (UK)
Sorry, Stan, missed that  :-[

Using FindMyPast address facility - East View listing on 1901 census, but not on 1891.
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 05 March 20 16:43 GMT (UK)
In 1911 number 322? is occupied by a baker William Laurence, the address is not shown but it comes after 324 and before 3 East View. There is no entry for 322a, so I assume they were living in what is now 322a, and the shop was the bakery.

Stan
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Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 07 March 20 12:12 GMT (UK)
In 1911 number 322? is occupied by a baker William Laurence,
Stan
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That should be William Lawrence, born 1857. The house had seven rooms.

Stan
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 07 March 20 15:10 GMT (UK)
Also William Lawrence Jr. was listed as being "Away from Home" two entries prior to William the Baker.  324 Main Road is the entry between the two.
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: lankyloo98 on Monday 09 March 20 09:32 GMT (UK)
Hi, My daughter has spoken to the gentleman in the shop below who gave her some interesting information. Whilst moving into the shop he was told that there was an entrance from the shop into the flat above but no body could remember where this was. After a bit of investigating (thank you to the shop owner) we found what we think is a bricked over door way shape at the back of his stock room which would lead straight into my daughters hall way/stairs. He said that there was an entrance to a cellar but again no one knows where this is. We did notice that looking at the cellar from the outside that this was bricked up from the inside! Also informed that a building opposite was originally a police station and that the area was so dodgy in the early 1900's that this station required a minimum of 10 officers to be on duty at one time and had cells for people to sober up in before taken to court.
Title: Re: 322a Glascote Road Tamworth
Post by: stanmapstone on Monday 09 March 20 10:27 GMT (UK)
From the Leamington Spa Courier 30 May 1896