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Title: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: pigginnut on Wednesday 04 March 20 16:57 GMT (UK)
Please could someone help me out here, we are trying to find Arthur Charles Blaza born 1870 Hardley Norfolk.  We know all about his parentage back and have him on all census except 1901 and 1911

Facts I know are that he was born 1870 Hardley Norfolk
He married Elizabeth Mary Anne Barrett or Berrett in Lowestoft Suffolk 8 April 1894

I have nothing more on him till he married again on 19th June 1921 to Emily Morris in Kingston Upon Hull.
we have his children too but he is an enigma between 1894 and 1921
Help would be appreciated as the name is notorious for being spelt wrong.
 ???
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 04 March 20 17:06 GMT (UK)

I have nothing more on him till he married again on 19th June 1921 to Emily Morris in Kingston Upon Hull.
we have his children too but he is an enigma between 1894 and 1921


Were they born in the period 1894 - 1921, if so can you please give details
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: pigginnut on Wednesday 04 March 20 17:11 GMT (UK)

Were they born in the period 1894 - 1921, if so can you please give details
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no the 2 children I know of were born to second wife 1927 and 1928 both in Kingston upon Hull

I know of no children born to him and Elizabeth as yet
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: pigginnut on Wednesday 04 March 20 17:22 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth was 26 in 1894 and her father was called John but deceased,  so far I have a possible birth in Marlborough

I have also just seen a Charles and Anne Blaza in 1901 living in poplar this has Charles down as being born Norfolk then it is crossed out and Lowestoft added. Anne is down as being born metfield
But the surname looks like Blaya so not sure

actually I have Elizabeth in 1871 with dad John and that says born metfield so there is a good chance it is them in 1901 but using middle names for some reason. No children with them though
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: cath151 on Wednesday 04 March 20 18:15 GMT (UK)
There is a possible in 1911 living in Sculcoates
Mr and Mrs Blaza
Search for a John Borrett aged 6

Cathy
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: cath151 on Wednesday 04 March 20 18:36 GMT (UK)
I wonder if Loddon was misheard as London for the birthplaces as Hardley is close to Loddon. Ages and years married are a little out but the couple have no children and it would tally with the 1901 census perhaps?

cathy
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: pigginnut on Wednesday 04 March 20 18:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Cathy

My gut is telling me that you have found them.  It is tricky as you say ages are a little out and from experience we know facts were not always true on the census.  Places fit roughly, just gotta work out how to prove it.

Lol
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 04 March 20 18:51 GMT (UK)
There is a possible in 1911 living in Sculcoates
Mr and Mrs Blaza
Search for a John Borrett aged 6

There is the death of an Annie Blaza, aged 51, Sculcoates 9d, 182, 3rd q. 1919
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: pigginnut on Wednesday 04 March 20 18:59 GMT (UK)
JenB  Thanks
why peops had to use middle names and lie about ages lol, did they not think to consider we who want to research lol
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: jonwarrn on Wednesday 04 March 20 20:45 GMT (UK)
There is the death of an Annie Blaza, aged 51, Sculcoates 9d, 182, 3rd q. 1919

No need to buy the certificate! Annie was buried at the Western Cemetery, Hull, 9 August 1919.
The register has all the info.
Died 5th August.
Age 51
Wife of Charles Blaza, Rullyman
Residence given as 5 Whitedale Gloucester St.
But it looks like she died in Sculcoates Workhouse.
Cause of death General paralysis :(
Image on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G96P-F986?cat=702378

Buried in compartment 555 grave 5391
But also says D.G.
As it does on the graves register, where (her) burial number is struck through (meaning?)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGK-S3ZB-3?i=507&cat=702378

Next one in that grave is 72332, Arthur Sayer, age 48, in 1938. Then Herbert Gray, 30, a Gunner in the Royal Artillery, who was buried in 1940.
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 04 March 20 21:10 GMT (UK)
5 Whitedale Avenue is Arthur Charles Blaza's address on the 1920 electoral register - Parliamentary Borough of Kingston upon Hull, South Western Division.
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: jonwarrn on Wednesday 04 March 20 21:25 GMT (UK)
Arthur had moved by the time of his death though.
Arthur Charles Blaza, 70, Carting Agent, died 13 May 1940
Buried at the NC in Hull, 17 May.
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 05 March 20 00:06 GMT (UK)
I have also just seen a Charles and Anne Blaza in 1901 living in poplar this has Charles down as being born Norfolk then it is crossed out and Lowestoft added. Anne is down as being born metfield
But the surname looks like Blaya so not sure

It says Blaza here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X945-Y5N

Possible birth of the John who is with them in 1911, given that the marriage for Arthur and Elizabeth was registered in Mutford.

BORRETT, JOHN mmn HORNSEY 
GRO Reference: 1904  J Quarter in MUTFORD  Volume 04A  Page 1172

Jamjar
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: JenB on Thursday 05 March 20 08:58 GMT (UK)
I have also just seen a Charles and Anne Blaza in 1901 living in poplar this has Charles down as being born Norfolk then it is crossed out and Lowestoft added. Anne is down as being born metfield
But the surname looks like Blaya so not sure

It says Blaza here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X945-Y5N

It is also transcribed as Blaza on FindMyPast.
At first glance it does look like 'Blaya', but just look a couple of lines above at Eliza Lepine, and note the unusual way in which the enumerator wrote the letter 'z' with an extra little loop at the beginning. The surname is definitely Blaza.
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 05 March 20 21:00 GMT (UK)
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before I even posted it ;D

Mind you, it would have been nice to have some response from pigginnut
Title: Re: Lost Arthur Charles Blaza 1894 to 1911
Post by: pigginnut on Friday 06 March 20 12:56 GMT (UK)
Sorry Folks
I am so grateful for your assistance here, have been away from computer looking after my mother, apologies for delay in replying.

I am so sure we have found the right one and I am very grateful to you all for your help, sometimes a second pair of eyes or 3 or 4 pairs in this case can see what you are missing. Although it was not blocking our research it is so good to have that gap filled on the tree.  The man clearly got about over the years lol.  ;D