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Title: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: foleyke on Thursday 27 February 20 01:07 GMT (UK)
I have traced my great grandfather to Cloonbannin East Cullen Parish. This info came via his gravestone in Newmarket. Family diaries also show a connection to the town lands of Bawn More and Kippagh and there is a Patrick Foley in the townland of Bawn More. How can I differentiate. I can't find anything about the Bawn More Foley but have brothers and a sister of the Cloonbannin one
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 February 20 01:47 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

Can you provide some info re birth and death dates?

Who did your Patrick Foley marry & when?
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: foleyke on Thursday 27 February 20 04:08 GMT (UK)
I don't know. He and wife Mary Buckley are on my grandfather's baptism register Microfilm 04267/08
Millstreet.
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 27 February 20 07:29 GMT (UK)
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634760#page/1/mode/1up

Is it this Joannes (John) 1857
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634760#page/31/mode/1up
Second entry.
There is also a Mary 1854 but this couple live in Knockduff
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: foleyke on Thursday 27 February 20 10:18 GMT (UK)
Yes. I believe that Johannes is my grandfather  John who emigrated to New Zealand in 1878.
ONe search  had two brothers Patrick (baptised Kilmeen 10.6.64) and Daniel (5.2.87) and a sister Julia (20.12.69) I am trying to track these siblings who we understand went to America.
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 27 February 20 16:46 GMT (UK)
You can look for births, marriages and deaths from 1864 in the Civil Records on Irish Genealogy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
You just need to prove your not a robot and sign it.
Despite the difference in date (not unusual) appears to be Julia birth cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03353/2229415.pdf
not all images of death certs are online yet.

other wise if they did go to America you won't find anything from when they left in Irish records.
You'll need to look in America.
FamilySearch (free) is worth a try or the likes of Ancestry of Find My Past if you have a subscription.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: foleyke on Thursday 27 February 20 20:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: Maellen on Friday 27 March 20 23:38 GMT (UK)
   I had relatives living in Kippagh townland during the time period mentioned in your posting. They had relatives named Foley that emigrated to the area you mentioned. Do you recognize the names McSweeney or Collins? 
                                      Maellen
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 28 March 20 06:14 GMT (UK)
As Sinann posted...

You can look for births, marriages and deaths from 1864 in the Civil Records on Irish Genealogy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Birth Certs show mother's maiden names...

ALL Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Foley of Kanturk from ? to 1890

Click births or Marriages as needed  right click on 5 or 6 names and open them in New Tab, much handier.

Change Surname as needed.

Patrick   10.6.64  and a sister Julia 20.12.69  and Daniel  5.2.87  looks very suspicious... 5 yrs between births then 18 years to next!!

With Lockdown etc it is an ideal time to sit down and research them rather than having a few bits posted for you. Then if one sees one of theirs on some family tree one has ability to check if they are correct or not etc...

Most importantly...  Wash hands regularly!!!   ;D

Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 28 March 20 06:57 GMT (UK)
   I had relatives living in Kippagh townland during the time period mentioned in your posting. They had relatives named Foley that emigrated to the area you mentioned. Do you recognize the names McSweeney or Collins? 
                                      Maellen


Which Kippagh townland?

https://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=Kippagh+&str=on

Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: dathai on Saturday 28 March 20 08:39 GMT (UK)
Daniel and Julia appear to have emigrated before 1880 to Cadillac, Wexford, Michigan.
Daniel married twice 1890 and 1902 he was a conductor on the railway

Julia married quite young about 16/17 to William J Dax
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: dathai on Saturday 28 March 20 09:33 GMT (UK)
Sorry that should be William J Sax
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQ35-92R

death 1947
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFHW-GL2


https://peoplelegacy.com/william_john_sax-1C3u0h1
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: foleyke on Tuesday 07 April 20 08:32 BST (UK)
Greetings during lockdown time. I have pretty much sorted my Great  Grandfather Patrick Foley. He died while in the Townland of Castlekevin and was baptised while at Bawnmore  Townland. He also lived in Kippagh Townland. However I can't find any evidence that he lived at Kippagh. There are no records that I can find.
And more generally. Did labourers move readily  from Townland to Townland? At Castlekevin Patrick Foley is recorded as having a house only at five shillings. Is that per year?
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 07 April 20 09:45 BST (UK)
........my Great  Grandfather Patrick Foley. He died while in the Townland of Castlekevin.......

Castlekevin townland
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/fermoy/clenor/clenor/castlekevin/

Is this the death of your Gt Grandfather in 1894?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05946/4689597.pdf
The informant is his daughter Nora Foley.

KG
Title: Re: Great Grandfather Patrick Foley
Post by: foleyke on Tuesday 07 April 20 11:03 BST (UK)
Yes got those records thanks. But I can't find any records for Kippagh. Maybe it wasn't part of the 1851 Census?