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Title: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 16:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you for any help that can be given.
I have attached an extract from an 1897 marriage certificate at Holy Trinity, Hull, however, I cannot work out the residence names.

FindMyPast transcriptions are:
1. 3 Prist Street
2. 85 Barnes Cole Street
If these transcriptions are correct I have struggled to find them on maps new or old.  I would be grateful for second opinions please or links to the transcribed names on a map.

Many thanks,

Nic
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: josey on Saturday 22 February 20 16:17 GMT (UK)
No 1 is IMO Print Street or maybe Priest Street.
No 2 maybe Barmston Street?
http://hull.streetmapof.co.uk/barmston-street/


ADDED: Do you have the bride or groom in 1891?
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 22 February 20 16:26 GMT (UK)
This might help:

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Hull/HullStreets/Hull1892StreetsB

Have you found them on the 1891-1901 census?

I thought Priest Street too and Barnes Court.

I have never heard of either of them and I grew up in Hull!

Carol
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 16:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks Josey, I have just found the bride's father's address in the 1901 census to be 85, Barmston Street matching your suggestion.
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 16:30 GMT (UK)
Thank you treetotal,

I have been able to confirm that the second one is 85, Barmston Street from the 1901 census.
Priest does look good for the first one but isn't in the list of street names you kindly included the link for.
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 16:33 GMT (UK)

Update: In my searches I have come across this website that I hadn't used before:  http://www.rootspoint.com/
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 22 February 20 16:34 GMT (UK)
Barmston Street...yes I know of that one...good call Josey...I see it now. I was looking for two words  ::)
Carol
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: josey on Saturday 22 February 20 16:48 GMT (UK)
Is this him?
Births Sep 1844   
MILNS    Robert Lenderback        Horncastle    14   385
Baptism
Name:   Robert Linderbeck Milns
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   29 Jul 1844
Baptism Place:   Horncastle,Lincoln,England
Father:   Joseph Milns
Mother:   Elizabeth

& this marriage?
Marriages Dec 1866   
MILNS    Robert L P        Spilsby    7a   1171    
Waller    Mary J        Spilsby    7a   1171
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 22 February 20 16:49 GMT (UK)
It sounds like they gave addresses in the nearest Parish to Holy Trinity Church as they both lived in different parishes...it wasn't unusual for couples to stay with friends or relatives when the banns were read...you can see why:

http://www.docbrown.info/docspics/wolds/woldspage14.htm

Now known as Hull Minster...it was given Minster status in 2017 the year of Hull.. "City of Culture"

Carol
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 16:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks Josey - definitely an unusual middle name!
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: josey on Saturday 22 February 20 16:53 GMT (UK)
There's a tree on ancestry with him; owner tigs10
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/46994796

The 'n' has obviously been transcribed as 'u'. The first vowel of Li[a][e] seems undecided! I would take the GRO birth register as most likely.
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 16:54 GMT (UK)
It sounds like they gave addresses in the nearest Parish to Holy Trinity Church as they both lived in different parishes...it wasn't unusual for couples to stay with friends or relatives when the banns were read...you can see why:

http://www.docbrown.info/docspics/wolds/woldspage14.htm

Now known as Hull Minster...it was given Minster status in 2017 the year of Hull.. "City of Culture"

Carol

Thanks treetotal - an interesting read.  I visited there for the first and only time last year.
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 22 February 20 17:00 GMT (UK)
I wonder if it was misheard and was supposed to be Prince Street....within site of the Holy Trinity Church.

The most photographed Hull Street:

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/property/lwhat-like-most-photographed-street-1480190


https://www.flickr.com/photos/newfolder/37049968941/

Carol
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 17:05 GMT (UK)
I wonder if it was misheard and was supposed to be Prince Street....within site of the Holy Trinity Church.

The most photographed Hull Street:

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/property/lwhat-like-most-photographed-street-1480190

Carol

Thanks treetotal.  It looks like the married couple had their first child  within a year of getting married so I hope that ordering that certificate will give me the correct address.

Update: doesn't help with the street name but just found this great website for Hull https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/history/
Title: Re: Hull street names from 1897 marriage certificate
Post by: teach3r on Saturday 22 February 20 17:16 GMT (UK)
There's a tree on ancestry with him; owner tigs10
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/46994796


Thank you - seems to be the right family but alas no residence description around the time in question.