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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: DavNich on Friday 21 February 20 08:41 GMT (UK)
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I have had my tree on Geneanet for many years, and it has brought me a lot of contacts.
Last night I had an email announcing their DNA venture.
This morning I uploaded my ancestry DNA test, and 2 hours later I got my first match.
I was astonished
David
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Well that's very interesting David.
Thank you.
I had not heard about it, but have now uploaded, and shall watch with interest.
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If you upload your DNA almost anywhere (DNA related) you will get hits the question is whether the hit is of any use to you.
Would you like to tell us a little about your hit, i.e. was it useful, was it correct, how did you verify it etc?
Oh, and good luck with your new venture.
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As both of us were on FT_DNA it was correct. The information given is minimal ie. .21% but future matches may be more signifiant. It is better than Living_DNA where I am still waiting for a match.
In time I hope the information may be better.
I have no regrets
David
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After reading post this morning I uploaded my data as I know some of my German/Russian relatives have family trees there. Was very disappointed in the results (and not just because I didn't find connections I was hoping to see).
I got ONE match and it says we share 0.29% DNA (no mention of how many centimorgans that would be) and it's a "Low accuracy DNA relationship."
Most possible relationships:
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 9th generation)
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 9th generation)
Other possible relationships:
distant cousin (common ancestor between 3rd and 8th generation)
distant cousin (common ancestor between 3rd and 8th generation)
Less possible relationships:
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 10th generation)
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 10th generation)
From Gedmatch and a few other sites I know we share 60 cm and DNA Painter calculates these as possible relationships-
https://dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
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After reading post this morning I uploaded my data as I know some of my German/Russian relatives have family trees there. Was very disappointed in the results (and not just because I didn't find connections I was hoping to see).
I got ONE match and it says we share 0.29% DNA (no mention of how many centimorgans that would be) and it's a "Low accuracy DNA relationship."
Most possible relationships:
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 9th generation)
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 9th generation)
Other possible relationships:
distant cousin (common ancestor between 3rd and 8th generation)
distant cousin (common ancestor between 3rd and 8th generation)
Less possible relationships:
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 10th generation)
distant cousin (common ancestor between 4th and 10th generation)
From Gedmatch and a few other sites I know we share 60 cm and DNA Painter calculates these as possible relationships-
https://dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
ISOGG has a chart with percentages and centimorgans for different relationships
https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_statistics
0.29% would lie between 13 cMs - 26 cMs
60 cMs would be considerably higher percentage, so the accuracy has to be questioned.
I uploaded mine out of interest - no matches as yet, which is to be expected if they have only just started out.
However, if they only accept uploads, I think useful matches aren't going to be that many, people will upload to myheritagedna, FTDNA and even Living DNA as well/instead.
So far Gedmatch is the only popular upload only site, and that is having problems as we know.
It might depend upon how good their tools are, sounds like they haven't got any at present.
Like David (Davnich) I still have no matches at Living DNA.
Regards Margaret
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Just uploaded 3 kits, one English, one Canadian and one Italian. I am going to wait and see what sort of matches they turn up before checking with the owners of the other kits that I manage whether they want to be added to Geneanet.
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I uploaded mine yesterday and got zero.
Martin
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So far my 3 uploads have correctly reported a match between two of them, and have given two matches that are not from my uploads. It will be interesting to see how those match lists continue to develop.
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and have given two matches that are not from my uploads
Out of interest, were these matches you already knew about from other sites?
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Just to be clear- I wasn't expecting a huge amount of results but was puzzled by the apparent inaccuracy of the one I did get.
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Out of interest, were these matches you already knew about from other sites?
I have tracked the one that matches the Italian kit to MyHeritage. I have still not figured out where the one that matches me is coming from. It is not easily visible under the same name on Ancestry, 23andme, MyHeritage, FTDNA or LivingDNA.
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Out of interest, were these matches you already knew about from other sites?
I have tracked the one that matches the Italian kit to MyHeritage. I have still not figured out where the one that matches me is coming from. It is not easily visible under the same name on Ancestry, 23andme, MyHeritage, FTDNA or LivingDNA.
I would like to know some tested and successful methods to do just that....
But I will start another thread for it.
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Can any of the posters give an update as to whether their number of matches has significantly improved?
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I have 254 matches, 6 new ones in the last 2-3 months. However, they are all small matches, the largest being 32 cM! And none seems obviously related to knpwn branches, although I have not spent much time on this. Normally, however I can often make a guestimate, as to where matches might fit in! It does have a chromosome browser, so you can see where you match , however I have not seen a way to compare more than one match to you on the browser!
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I have 254 matches, 6 new ones in the last 2-3 months. However, they are all small matches, the largest being 32 cM! And none seems obviously related to knpwn branches, although I have not spent much time on this. Normally, however I can often make a guestimate, as to where matches might fit in! It does have a chromosome browser, so you can see where you match , however I have not seen a way to compare more than one match to you on the browser!
Thanks for the update Jane. Do you have any known French connections? I assume that the majority of people on there might be French? I suppose if you have your DNA on all the other major providers, it is probably not going to tell you anything you don't already know.
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Hi Melba,
To be honest I was unaware of it having french roots. As it happens, my brother lives in France, and has a french wife, though they have no children, so there are no french relatives, other than my brother's in-laws etc. to be found in the database!
Most of my matches, I assume, will be North American, as the vast majority have mixed ethnicity names, with Irish, Scandanavian, Italian, Mexican and Jewish names all mixed up together, which I imaging is typical of the mixed heredity of the descendents of the 19th & 20th century immigrants to USA or America, from Europe! Of course, if they are my matches, it would be no surprise that the majority will be from North America, as I am about 100% Irish, and many many irish emmigrated in that direction, and they seem to have been the most enthusiastic testers too!
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I have quite a few more matches on Geneanet since this thread started- most very, very low numbers and those that have trees provide no clues as to where we might connect. I did have 1 person there contact me who now lives in Paris. Fortunately he's done lots of research before DNA using actual records and we were able to narrow down mutual ancestry.
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Could anyone tell me how to download match data from Geneanet, for local processing?
Zaph
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Hi Melba,
To be honest I was unaware of it having french roots. As it happens, my brother lives in France, and has a french wife, though they have no children, so there are no french relatives, other than my brother's in-laws etc. to be found in the database!
Most of my matches, I assume, will be North American, as the vast majority have mixed ethnicity names, with Irish, Scandanavian, Italian, Mexican and Jewish names all mixed up together, which I imaging is typical of the mixed heredity of the descendents of the 19th & 20th century immigrants to USA or America, from Europe! Of course, if they are my matches, it would be no surprise that the majority will be from North America, as I am about 100% Irish, and many many irish emmigrated in that direction, and they seem to have been the most enthusiastic testers too!
Thanks Jane. It would be interesting to know if your brother's wife has done a test and uploaded on there and had any better luck. Although of course testing is in theory illegal in France but there are ways around it, and I believe MyHeritage kits were openly sold in supermarkets for many years, not sure if they still are (apparently that did attract the attention of some French officials who may or may not have rapped Carrefour etc on the knuckles ::)). It sounds like something a bit worse than my GEDMATCH matches where I can identify about 10 or less and the rest of 1000s I have very little idea about! Not helped by the fact people are even less likely to put family trees on there, even though slightly better than 23andme in that regard.
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Hi Melba
Gedmatch is about the same for me, of my top 20, there are 11 who I know about pretty much exactly, as I match with them on Ancestry. 2 of those are my Dad and first cousins, whose matches I manage.Of the other 9, 4 are 2 sets of duplicates, one of which I know pretty much how we relate, but not the exact relationship of their and my 2 furthest relatives on those lines, be they siblings, cousins, Uncle/niece/nephew etc.. The other I know roughly where in my tree they match, but that is back in Ireland, and that is hard to fathom. the other 6 are similar to the last, I know the branch, and the location of most, but the exact link to my family there is unclear. The last one I have no real info regarding the match, though at nearly 50 cM, it is likely not a false positive. Th last of theses 20 is at 36.1 cM, so of a reasonable size. However below that I have very little idea, other that recognising from the user name/name, that many are Irish in origin! Not a surprise to me.
My sister in law has always volunteered her opinion of DNA testing to me - not positive! However, over the years ( married 25 years this year!), I am aware of a slight thaw in her opinion. I may get there sometime in the next 25 years, you never know!!