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Title: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: patrexjax on Monday 17 February 20 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hello all! I am having difficulty with Daniel Spoor's wife Rosa. On their marriage entry in freebmd her middle name is spelled two different ways - hence my title to reflect that issue. I have found six children for this couple and feel fairly confident on that score. What I really need help with is finding out Rosa's Father and Mother's names.  I cannot seem to find Rosa on either GRO or freebmd showing a likely birth; I think she was born in Yorkshire possibly about 1846 or so. Sorry to be so vague on Rosa, but, I need help to find out more about her and her parents! Thanks very much for your interest and assistance. Sincerely, patrexjax
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 February 20 20:57 GMT (UK)
Don’t you have her birthyear and birthplace from census returns?  She died 1903 aged 57 so should be on 1871-1901 censuses

What was her fathers name on the marriage cert?
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: patrexjax on Monday 17 February 20 21:13 GMT (UK)
Hello CaroleW. Thank you for your reply. No, I do not have the marriage cert: only the reference in freebmd. I lost all my research notes when my computer crashed a while back; I think I found Daniel and Rosa in 1881 census where  he is a file forger. It looks like Rosa was born about 1846 in Sheffield. I did find a remnant note indicating her parents MAY have been a Charles Frost and a Sarah, but I haven' t had any success with that avenue.  Sincerely, patrexjax
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 February 20 21:13 GMT (UK)
On every census 1871-1901 she is just Lavinia b Sheffield.  Her birth may not have been registered so you need to check earlier censuses prior to her marriage
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 February 20 21:16 GMT (UK)
1851 shown as Levina Frost aged 5 b Sheffield parents Charles & Sarah
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: Tuppie on Thursday 27 February 20 14:02 GMT (UK)

The marriage was at Rotherham Minster(formerly Parish Church of All Saints)


2 Oct 1865 Rose Lavina Frost aged 20 father Charles Frost Warehouseman.

Angela
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 28 February 20 06:50 GMT (UK)
FROST, CLARE mmn COCKING 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in OF THE ECCLESALL BIERLOW UNION  Volume 22  Page 11


FROST, ELIZABETH mmn COCKING 
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in OF THE ECCLESALL BIERLOW UNION  Volume 22  Page 178

FROST, WILLIS  HERBERT  mmn   COCKING 
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 250

FreeBMD;******
Sept 1845
Cocking Levina  Sheffield 22 593

GRO has no Mothers mn so illeg.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 28 February 20 07:15 GMT (UK)
I cant see that Charles Frost and Sarah ever married.

May be Sarah in 1841 Census
Hannah Cocking, 45   
Sarah Cocking, 20
John Cocking, 15
Mary Cocking, 10   
Emma Cocking, 5   

1851 Census
Sheffield
Hannah Cocking   53 Head Widow File ? born Conisbro, Yorkshire
Emma Cocking   17 Daug Unm born Sheffield
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 28 February 20 08:07 GMT (UK)
As per 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBCL-3H1

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-D6G8

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7NS3-MMM

FROST, LILLEY       - 
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in ROTHERHAM  Volume 09C  Page 500
Married: Jun 1889 Ecclesall B. 9c 433
FREITAY Edward Albert F (Births to the couple on GRO, have surname as FREITAG)
SPOOR Lilly
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7N7K-9MM
1901: Edward - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS95-5LR
1901: FREITAG children with grandparents, Daniel and Lavinia - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9T7-1MT
1911: Edward widower - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X75C-RLK
Death? This is the only possible death and the age is correct, but Edward claims to be a widower in 1911:
FREITAG, LILY    48 
GRO Reference: 1914  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 820

SPOOR, ARTHUR mmn FROST 
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 263
Married: Sep 1896 Ecclesall B. 9c 504
SPOOR Arthur
TINGLE Mary Elizabeth
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9RM-1L6
1910: Arthur arrives New York - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T3-57XH-N?i=360&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJJV2-3PT
1910: Mary and son arrive in New York - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T3-575M-L?i=305&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJJDD-Q3G

SPOOR, ADA mmn FROST 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 288
Married: Sep 1892 Sheffield 9c 666
BEECROFT Herbert
SPOOR Ada
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PT-841
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKP-F6W

SPOOR, SARAH  MYRA mmn FROST 
GRO Reference: 1871  D Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 300
Married: Sep 1897 Ecclesall B. 9c 420
SWINNERTON John W
SPOOR Sarah Myra
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95T-BHV
Deaths:
SWINNERTON, JOHN  WOOFINDIN    57 
GRO Reference: 1928  M Quarter in CHAPEL EN LE FRITH  Volume 07B  Page 985
SWINNERTON, SARAH  MYRAH     66 
GRO Reference: 1938  M Quarter in CHAPEL EN LE FRITH  Volume 07B  Page 979

SPOOR, DANIEL mmn FROST 
GRO Reference: 1874  S Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 373
Possible marriage: Jun 1901 Liverpool 8b 20
SPOOR Daniel
BASA Elizabeth Winifred   
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWTG-1MQ
Deaths:
SPOOR, DANIEL    75 
GRO Reference: 1949  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL NORTH  Volume 10D  Page 296
SPOOR, ELIZABETH  WINIFRED    75 
GRO Reference: 1955  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL NORTH  Volume 10D  Page 383

SPOOR, MARY  ANN mmn FROST died Dec 1878
GRO Reference: 1877  S Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 403

SPOOR, WILLIE mmn FROST 
GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 378
Married: Sep 1903 Liverpool 8b 63
SPOOR William
TYRER Margaret
Other than the one birth I can’t find anything nothing on this couple.
SPOOR, ROSE  LAVINIA mmn TYRER 
GRO Reference: 1904  S Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 623

Jamjar
Title: Re: Daniel Spoor m. Rosa Lavina/Lavinia Frost 1865 Sheffield
Post by: chempat on Friday 28 February 20 08:25 GMT (UK)
1851 shown as Levina Frost aged 5 b Sheffield parents Charles & Sarah

Ages in 1851
Charles Frost   23
Sarah Frost   28
Levina Frost   5
Clare Frost   2
Elizabeth Frost   10 Mo
William Frost   18  (brother)

Charles would have been 17 or 18 when Lavinia was born, so may not have been her Father - are you interested in information about him?