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Title: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 03:58 GMT (UK)
William Henry Oakley died in Middlesex in October 1896. Three children emigrated around 1897 or 8 the eldest David (1869) and the youngest Harriett Elizabeth (1883) ended up in Kalgoorlie by 1899. The middle sibling Phillip John (1873) married in NZ in 1902 to Alice Dormer.

We think all three siblings went to NZ first and then the oldest and youngest went to Fremantle.

However we have found no trace of the three in the travel records from Aus, NZ or UK scources.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 05:20 GMT (UK)
Harriet’s death Australia 1948, 3rd column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46920639

David’s death Australia 1953, 3rd column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49220260

I can’t see them entering Australia, either.

There is a David Oakley mentioned WA, in October 1896. 2nd last column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87852435

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 06:03 GMT (UK)
Yes- I have all those, and more - its just the arrivals I am missing.

Tarella
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: wivenhoe on Monday 17 February 20 06:29 GMT (UK)


"..David (1869) and the youngest Harriett Elizabeth (1883) ended up in Kalgoorlie by 1899...."

Where do you see them in Western Australia at 1899?

Western Australia seems like a long way from New Zealand.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 17 February 20 06:32 GMT (UK)
You may have to consider purchasing a death printout for:

1959/27599   Oakley   Philip John        91Y

[Although if the correct person, the age does not fit.]

Here is what you can expect to find on such a document:

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/death


However you should keep in mind that the information is only as reliable as the knowledge of the person providing the details.  :)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 06:37 GMT (UK)


"..David (1869) and the youngest Harriett Elizabeth (1883) ended up in Kalgoorlie by 1899...."

Where do you see them in Western Australia at 1899?

Western Australia seems like a long way from New Zealand.

Wivenhoe, he married in 1900:

Oakley David to Davies Elizabeth Jane 564 1900

A birth in 1901: Oakley Eric Henri parents David and Davies Elizabeth Jane Kanowna 1694 1901

I have found others, in the past, who travelled NZ to WA for mining work/ gold fields.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 06:44 GMT (UK)
Yes, I wondered about that, also, Minniehaha.

There is the arrival to NZ, on PaperPast, 1884, of a David, Philip and Ellen. So, I wonder how the OP has linked NZ Phillip John to the AU pair. Scroll down to heading English Shipping: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZMAIL18840530.2.65?items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Phillip+Oakley&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 17 February 20 06:59 GMT (UK)
I too, had just located that shipping arrival. I will put up my link also as the item is much shorter, making it quicker to find the Oakley names.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP18840522.2.5?phrase=2&query=philip+oakley&snippet=true


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 07:28 GMT (UK)
David, May 1897, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article216694802

David, 1899, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article201930368

William Henry Oakley died in Middlesex in October 1896.

I assume the assumption here is that David left after his father’s death. His father died in October and David is in WA by 21 October 1896. Therefore, I’d suggest that they came to Australia first, or, they left UK prior to their father’s death.


Jamjar

Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 17 February 20 07:41 GMT (UK)
Seems to be numerous trees for the Oakley family, some have Phillip John as being born 1873 others have 1869, but they do have 1959 for the death.


Cheers
KHP

Added: I can see an Ellen born 1860
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 07:48 GMT (UK)
Here he is on the 1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Z-JW9R

Family: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Z-J764

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 07:48 GMT (UK)
William Henry Oakley died in Middlesex in October 1896.
Three children emigrated around 1897 or 8 the
eldest David (1869) and the
youngest Harriett Elizabeth (1883) ended up in Kalgoorlie by 1899.
The middle sibling Phillip John (1873) married in NZ in 1902 to Alice Dormer.


Is Harriet birth 1883 correct should it be 1866?

1871 census Wm H OAKLEY & Maria their children
Henry W 16, Alice 13, ELLEN 11, Jane M 9, HARIETT E 4, James 2, DAVID 2

Harriet Elizabeth Oakley
Baptism 25 Nov 1866 St Andrew Enfield
Father:   William Henry  Mother:   Maria
HEO On 1881 census as a general servant age 14 born Enfield

Ellen Oakley
Baptism    15 Jul 1860 St Andrew Enfield
Father:   William Henry  Mother:   Maria

Ellen Oakley
Marriage 1886 New Zealand
Spouse:   Alfred Elias Barrow Hitchmough

Ellen Hitchmough
Death 22 Jun 1898 Karori, Wellington, Wellington
Cemetery :   Karori

David Oakley
Baptism 2 May 1869 St Andrew Enfield
Father:   William Henry  Mother:   Maria
DO with his parents on 1881c with addition of three younger brothers (one being PJO age 7)

Philip John Oakley
Baptism D13 Apr 1873 St Andrew Enfield
Father:   William Henry Oakley Mother:   Maria

Sorry not located any shipping records from UK ??? Edit see replies 6&7
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 07:55 GMT (UK)
Jun 1854 Edmonton 3a 136
OAKLEY William Henry
SKERRATT Maria

OAKLEY, ALICE mmn SKERRATT
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 139

OAKLEY, ELLEN mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1860  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 148

OAKLEY, MARIA  JANE mmn SKERRETT 
GRO Reference: 1862  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 148

OAKLEY, KATE mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 161

OAKLEY, HARRIETT  ELIZABETH mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 186

OAKLEY, DAVID mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 188

OAKLEY, JAMES mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 189

OAKLEY, CHARLES  ARTHUR mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1872  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 237

OAKLEY, FREDERICK  GEORGE mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1872  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 236

OAKLEY, PHILIP  JOHN mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 212

OAKLEY, EDWARD  SEPTIMUS mmn SKERRATT died 1880
GRO Reference: 1875  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 245

So, we have 3 arriving in NZ before death of father. Wonder when and where Harriett arrived?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 17 February 20 08:04 GMT (UK)
From reply #11..

"Sorry not located any shipping records from UK"


See replies #6 & 7   :)


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 08:06 GMT (UK)
From reply #11..

"Sorry not located any shipping records from UK"


See replies #7


Minniehaha.

Or, #6  ;D

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 08:15 GMT (UK)
From reply #11..
"Sorry not located any shipping records from UK"

See replies #6 & 7   :)
From reply #11..

"Sorry not located any shipping records from UK"

See replies #7

Or, #6  ;D


Oops  :)
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 08:35 GMT (UK)
Did brother Henry also go to NZ?

Henry William Oakley
Baptism 20 Dec 1857 St Andrew Enfield
Father:   William Henry Oakley Mother:   Maria
Not found on 1881 UK census

Henry William Oakley
Death 13 Jan 1923 New Zealand
Cemetery:   Wakapuaka Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:   Nelson, Nelson City, Nelson, New Zealand
Spouse:   Annie Ruhabina Oakley
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169398051
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 08:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you all you clever and very quick people. I was just making and eating a mushroom risotto.

I will go through it all "slowly" in the morning.

Tarella.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 09:06 GMT (UK)
Did brother Henry also go to NZ?

Henry William Oakley
Baptism 20 Dec 1857 St Andrew Enfield
Father:   William Henry Oakley Mother:   Maria
Not found on 1881 UK census

Henry William Oakley
Death 13 Jan 1923 New Zealand
Cemetery:   Wakapuaka Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:   Nelson, Nelson City, Nelson, New Zealand
Spouse:   Annie Ruhabina Oakley
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169398051

He is on the 1861, born in 1855. I can’t find his birth on GRO under Oakley/Skarratt/Skerrett:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7FM-4H8

The cemetery website has him as Andrew William:

WKCE28073 OAKLEY ANDREW WILLIAM   Wakapuaka 15-1-1923 69 years
WKCE28073_A OAKLEY ANNIE RUHABINA   Wakapuaka 5-9-1930 74 years

However: 1923/3320   Oakley Henry William   69Y

1877/951 Anne Richabina MULLERD to Henry William OAKLEY

Jamjar



Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 09:29 GMT (UK)

He is on the 1861, born in 1855. I can’t find his birth on GRO under Oakley/Skarratt/Skerrett:


Neither can I there's also this record of his baptism

Henry William Oakley son of William Henry and Maria his wife, of Parish of Enfield born
8 Feb 1855 baptised 11th March 1855
Denomination:   Disssenters
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970

William Henry Oakley & Maria Skerratt both single, both resident Baker Street
married 13 May 1854 St Andrew Enfield,
his father Joseph hers John

EDIT to add marriage entry  - sorry jamjar noticed you had also posted  :)

Henry William Oakley
1877 New Zealand
Spouse Anne Richabina Mullerd
Registration number   1877/951

Henry William Oakley occ Butcher
Electoral year   1881 New Zealand
Residence   Adelaide Road
Electorate   South Wellington

edited possibly a different HWO

Henry William Oakley occ Tinsmith
Electoral year   1893
Residence   Tasman St    Nelson

Annie Rachabina Oakley
Electoral year   1896
Residence   Tasman Street Nelson
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 09:51 GMT (UK)
Probate record says he was born ‘ENFIELD’:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-47HM-M?i=288&cc=1865481

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 09:59 GMT (UK)
W H Oakley's fifth child was Henrette Elizabeth born 1866.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 10:02 GMT (UK)
W H Oakley's fifth child was Henrette Elizabeth born 1866.

See the offical listing I posted from the GRO UK website. It matches her name recorded for her death in WA.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 10:08 GMT (UK)
David as a single male (page 43) and Ellen as single female with Philip as child (page 49).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSYL-X31

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DYCR-M5?i=42&cc=1609792

Henry William arrived NZ in 1874:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSTN-64D

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTS9-WJP?i=22&cc=1609792&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AFSTN-64D


Jamjar


Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 10:18 GMT (UK)
Summary
Henry William 1855 died in NZ 1923 -Arrived Wellington 26 May 1874
Alice 1858 - probably stayed in UK
Ellen 1860 went to NZ 1884 with two brothers died NZ 1898
Maria Jane 1862 married and stayed in UK son killed 1914 war
Henriette E 1866 stayed in UK
David 1869 to NZ with Ellen then Kalgoorlie married in Kanowna 1900 died Perth 1953
James 1869 UK and maybe Indiana - not checked
Charles 1872 stayed in UK
Phillip John 1873 to NZ with Ellen and David died NZ 1959
Edward 1875 died UK 1880
Harriet Elizabeth 1883 certainly in Kalgoorlie 1916 Sunday School Supervisor died Perth single 1948 - have her bible. How did she get to Kalgoorlie??
Thanks people.
Tarella

Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 10:46 GMT (UK)

Henriette E 1866 stayed in UK

Harriet Elizabeth 1883 certainly in Kalgoorlie 1916 Sunday School Supervisor died Perth single 1948 - have her bible. How did she get to Kalgoorlie??


I can only see one Harriet E Oakley born to William Henry & Maria and that's in 1866

OAKLEY, HARRIETT  ELIZABETH mmn SKERRATT 
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 186

details from my previous post

1871 c Wm H OAKLEY & Maria their children
Henry W 16, Alice 13, ELLEN 11, Jane M 9, HARIETT E 4, James 2, DAVID 2

Harriet Elizabeth Oakley
Baptism 25 Nov 1866 St Andrew Enfield
Father:   William Henry  Mother:   Maria

Harriet E Oakley is on UK 1881 census as a general servant age 14 born Enfield

Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 10:49 GMT (UK)
David Oakley left Wellington for Coolgardie 18 Feb 1899 - note on photograph,
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 10:52 GMT (UK)
1871 Census reads Henriette - don't you think?
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 10:58 GMT (UK)
1871 Census reads Henriette - don't you think?

I read it as HARRIETT E Oakley
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 11:00 GMT (UK)
All bpt at St Andrew Enfield parents William Henry OAKLEY & Maria

Alice Oakley           20 Dec 1857   
Henry William Oakley   20 Dec 1857
Ellen Oakley.              15 Jul 1860
Marie Jane Oakley   23 Feb 1862   
Kate Oakley           31 Jul 1864   
Harriet Elizabeth Oakley   25 Nov 1866   
David Oakley            2 May 1869   
James Oakley            2 May 1869   
Frederick George Oakley   15 Jan 1872   
Charles Arthur Oakley   4 Feb 1872   
Philip John Oakley   13 Apr 1873   
Edward Septimus Oakley   27 Jun 1875   
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 11:14 GMT (UK)
William Henry Oakley died in Middlesex in October 1896.

Three children emigrated around 1897 or 8 the

eldest David (1869) and the

youngest Harriett Elizabeth (1883) ended up in Kalgoorlie by 1899.

The middle sibling Phillip John (1873) married in NZ in 1902 to Alice Dormer.


Where did you get the 1883 year of birth for Harriett?

EDIT to add death of mother Maria

Maria Oakley age 51
Registration Dec 1882 Edmonton Middlesex Volume:   3a Page:   193

1893/1896 New Zealand ER
Harriet Elizabeth Oakley occ settler
Residence 139 Willis St Wellington

1939 Australia ER
OAKLEY address 25 Florence Street Cottesloe
David retired
Elizabeth Jane home duties
Harriet Elizabeth home duties
Same address in 1943 NO David
There are two other persons surname Oakley at a different address
Eric Henry, school teacher & Alice Adele
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 11:55 GMT (UK)
Harriet Elizabeth Oakley Feb 10th 1883 - inscribed in her bible
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 12:26 GMT (UK)
Harriet Elizabeth Oakley Feb 10th 1883 - inscribed in her bible

Mmm....... ??? HEO can't be Maria Oakley's daughter as she died in 1882  ???

HEO should be registered in Mar qtr 1883

This is the only one that's showing on FreeBMD
Mar 1883   
OAKLEY    Harriett Emma        Westhampnett    2b   420
GRO indexes gives her mmn SHORT and she died age 20 in 1903

Could it be the date  she was given the bible  ???

Does it specifically say that is her date of birth or is it just a date written next to her name?
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 20:18 GMT (UK)
1871 Census reads Henriette - don't you think?

I read it as HARRIETT E Oakley

It says Harriett E.

You’ll need to purchase the 1948 WA death cert to confirm Harriett’s age and that you have the correct family.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 20:51 GMT (UK)
Good morning everyone.
Harriet's death notice by David Oakley, attached, says that she is his sister. But if her birth date was 1883 was she the daughter of Henry W Oakley and Annie Ruhabina Oakley? Buried in same plot see below. When did they get married?
Its seems likely that Harriet Elizabeth was not the sister of Ellen, David and Phillip.
First picture is of David Oakley before he left for Coolgardie 1899.
And the last picture in the set was it seems taken by the same photographer but at a later date, how old is the girl?
Tarella
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Monday 17 February 20 21:01 GMT (UK)
OK I surrender Harriet was born in 1866 and was 82 when she died. Which is quite feasible.

But I am still curious about Annie Ruhabina Oakley.

Tarella.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 17 February 20 22:51 GMT (UK)

Harriet's death notice by David Oakley, attached, says that she is his sister.

But if her birth date was 1883 was she the daughter of Henry W Oakley and Annie Ruhabina Oakley? Buried in same plot see below.

When did they get married?

Its seems likely that Harriet Elizabeth was not the sister of Ellen, David and Phillip.


Henry & Annie married in 1877 see post by Jamjar

I can only find these births in NZ for Henry & Annie

Registration Number
1878/11629   Oakley   Lionel Henry           Annie Richabina           Henry William
1881/6937   Oakley   Bruce McGregor           Annie                   Henry William
1882/10705   Oakley   Annie Adelaide           Annie Rechabina   Henry William   
1884/9483   Oakley   Archibald Wallace   Annie Rechabina   Henry William
1885/18100   Oakley   May                           Annie Rechabina   Henry William   
1885/18101   Oakley   Isabel                   Annie Rechabina   Henry William
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 17 February 20 23:28 GMT (UK)
But I am still curious about Annie Ruhabina Oakley

Curious about?

She is Henry’s wife.

I have been looking at the middle name and have come across only one instance of it in the area.
There is a marriage of a Mary Ann Rechabina Tankard in VIC, 1860. Her folks were John TANKARD and Jane CARMEAL.

Could there be a connection?

Henry’s marriage cert is needed.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Tuesday 18 February 20 01:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Jam Jar,

Forgive me but where do I get the marriage Cert?

Also that picture of Harriet Elizabeth (born 1866) was taken inscribed "Lizze - March 21 1900" so she was 34. Is that OK?

Tarella
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 18 February 20 02:33 GMT (UK)
This looks to be the marriage on NZ BDM's

1877/951   Anne Richabina   Mullerd   Henry William   Oakley

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=%2FmarriageSelect.m%3Fsort%3Dbrfirst%24bbrfirst%24#matches

Purchase the printout as it is cheaper and usually has more information than a legal certificate

Printout - post 1874   25.00   A copy of the information from the registration, and usually used for research purposes. It is either handwritten or typed
Printout - pre 1875   25.00   A copy of the information from the registration, and usually used for research purposes. It is either handwritten or typed

Printout      A scanned image of the original record, however if a record has been updated or corrected it will be typed, as a correction cannot be made to a scanned image.
All records 1998 onwards will be typed as there is no scanned image.
Non-emailed printouts are produced on plain white paper.

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 18 February 20 03:10 GMT (UK)
This looks to be the marriage on NZ BDM's

1877/951   Anne Richabina   Mullerd   Henry William   Oakley

Cheers Janette

Keeping with the theme of the middle name, transcribed as Annie Rechabina Millard on Ancestry for the marriage. 


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 18 February 20 03:13 GMT (UK)
Not part of the brief but if you don't have this information about Ellen nee Oakley you may find it to be of interest, perhaps.

Hitchmough- Oakley wedding [1886]…….

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZMAIL18860611.2.37?query=hitchmough&snippet=true&title=DOM%2cEP%2cNZFL%2cHN%2cHVI%2cKOP%2cMKURA%2cMATUH%2cNZCPNA%2cNZGWS%2cNZMAIL%2cNZSCSG%2cNZTIM%2cOTMAIL%2cPUKEH%2cUHWR%2cVT%2cWAG%2cWDT%2cWAIST%2cWI

Death of husband [1898]…..

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP18980624.2.47?items_per_page=10&page=10&query=hitchmough&snippet=true&title=DOM%2cEP%2cNZFL%2cHN%2cHVI%2cKOP%2cMKURA%2cMATUH%2cNZCPNA%2cNZGWS%2cNZMAIL%2cNZSCSG%2cNZTIM%2cOTMAIL%2cPUKEH%2cUHWR%2cVT%2cWAG%2cWDT%2cWAIST%2cWI

Obituary:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZMAIL18980707.2.129?items_per_page=10&page=12&query=hitchmough&snippet=true&title=DOM%2cEP%2cNZFL%2cHN%2cHVI%2cKOP%2cMKURA%2cMATUH%2cNZCPNA%2cNZGWS%2cNZMAIL%2cNZSCSG%2cNZTIM%2cOTMAIL%2cPUKEH%2cUHWR%2cVT%2cWAG%2cWDT%2cWAIST%2cWI

Thank you-from Ellen [1898]…….

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP18980627.2.2.5?items_per_page=10&page=3&query=hitchmough&snippet=true&title=DOM%2cEP%2cNZFL%2cHN%2cHVI%2cKOP%2cMKURA%2cMATUH%2cNZCPNA%2cNZGWS%2cNZMAIL%2cNZSCSG%2cNZTIM%2cOTMAIL%2cPUKEH%2cUHWR%2cVT%2cWAG%2cWDT%2cWAIST%2cWI

Ellen leaving Wellington
. Description of house contents for sale [1899]…..

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP18990223.2.69.1?items_per_page=10&page=3&query=hitchmough&snippet=true&title=DOM%2cEP%2cNZFL%2cHN%2cHVI%2cKOP%2cMKURA%2cMATUH%2cNZCPNA%2cNZGWS%2cNZMAIL%2cNZSCSG%2cNZTIM%2cOTMAIL%2cPUKEH%2cUHWR%2cVT%2cWAG%2cWDT%2cWAIST%2cWI

Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 18 February 20 03:32 GMT (UK)
From reply #11.........

Ellen Hitchmough
Death 22 Jun 1898 Karori, Wellington, Wellington
Cemetery :   Karori



This is incorrect. Her husband died on that date.

Last name HITCHMOUGH First name A C B Age 40 Years OccupationClerkService provided Burial date 26/06/1898 Cemetery Karori Section CH ENGPlot number4 RRecord number37014

Did Ellen remarry?

1902/3683   Ellen   Hitchmough   William Andrew   Hill


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 18 February 20 05:58 GMT (UK)
Further to reply #39...

Part quote:

"This looks to be the marriage on NZ BDM's"

1877/951   Anne Richabina   Mullerd   Henry William   Oakley

Here is the information you can expect to find on a marriage registration document for that time:

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/marriage

ADDED: Note- names of parents will not be shown.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 18 February 20 06:27 GMT (UK)
Actual cemetery details:

http://www.nelson.govt.nz/services/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries-search/

Record ID
WKCE28073
Surname
OAKLEY
First names
ANDREW WILLIAM**
Age
69 years
Date of interment
15/01/1923
Gender
Male
Cemetery
Wakapuaka
Block
28
Plot type
Burial
Type Of Grave
Interment
Plot number
073
Area
CHURCH OF ENGLAND/ANGLICAN
Denomination
CHURCH OF ENGLAND/ANGLICAN
Funeral director
A SHONE & CO.
Other Interments also in this plot
WKCE28073_A
OAKLEY ANNIE RUHABINA

**Name incorrectly recorded.

Lodge notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NEM19230113.2.54.1?end_date=31-12-1923&items_per_page=10&page=2&query=henry+william+oakley&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1923

Death notice for wife Annie [1930]….

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NEM19300904.2.24?end_date=31-12-1930&query=annie+oakley&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1930


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 18 February 20 08:18 GMT (UK)
from death detail posted by minniehaha Ann died 1930 age 74

So not sure about this birth entry posting due to similar name

Sep 1842   Millard   Ann Racabina      Melksham   8   351

From GRO indexes
Ann’s  midddle name and surname transcribed Rawbird  Millerd mmn CHAPMAN

Edit to add

There are other birth entries Melksham mmn Chapman

Mary Jane 1843
Ellen 1845
Martha 1846

This appears to be the family on the 1851 census

Piece:   1840 Folio:   556 Page    16   
Mortimer St Trowbridge Wiltshire
Jacob Millard   34 cloth dresser
Sarah Millard   30 milliner
ANN Millard   9
Keate Millard   7
Ellen Millard   6
Martha Millard   4
All born Trowbridge Wiltshire

On marriage cert. wife named Ellen  - perhaps he remarried  :-\ (added possible death of wife EM age 30 in 1847 Trowbridge)

Marriage 27th July 1841 Parish Church of Trowbridge
Jacob MILLARD f/a occ cloth dresser father James Labourer
Ellen CHAPMAN f/a occ Milliner father Thomas, Waggoner
Ellen made her mark (x)
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Wednesday 15 April 20 04:55 BST (UK)
My I summarize what I know and don't know.
The following Oakleys arrived in Wellington as follows:
Henry William arrived on LaHogue 26th May 1874 age 19 married Annie Ruhabina Mullerd 29 March 1877 - ?no children
Ellen arrived Victory May 1884 age 24 with David (one of an identical twin) 15 and Phillip 11.
Harriet Elizabeth arrived on Aorangi 14 Nov 1889 age 23.

Ellen married Alfred Elias Barrow Hitchmough 1886 8th June. Alfred died suddenly June 1898 many newspaper articles. Ellen sells house and goods 89 Austin St newspaper report 23 Feb 1899 as leaving Wellington - no children according to newspapers. NO FURTHER TRACE - although other lady of same name appears in press.

David leaves Wellington Feb 18, 1899; Harriet leaves 21 March 1900 - both end up in Kanowna, WA.

Phillip marries Alice Mary Dormer in January 1902 - 6 children - all still in NZ.

OPEN Query - where did Mrs Ellen Hitchmough get to - assuming she is NOT the drunk widely reported in Wellington at that time.


Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 15 April 20 05:19 BST (UK)
Sorry, I have not read all the threads but this marriage from reply #42.......


1902/3683   Ellen   Hitchmough   William Andrew   Hill


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Wednesday 15 April 20 05:32 BST (UK)
That was super quick - Ill see if anything turns up -  Thank you.
Title: Re: Oakley's from Enfield
Post by: Tarella on Saturday 09 May 20 06:20 BST (UK)
Re Minniehaha post #42

If I have the reference to the wedding you identified it has now been pointed out that William Andrew Hill was not born in 1893 - I am not sure where that date came from.