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Title: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: minijimaus on Friday 14 February 20 05:32 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for information on Charles Collier bap. 16 October 1774 in Manchester Cathedral, parents Abraham and Mary Collier. A trade directory in 1800 lists Charles living with his parents in Red Bank, occupation hatter. However, I have no other information on Charles - marriage, children, or later life.

The 1841 census lists a Chas Collier living in Stockport, but I'm stumped as to whether this is Charles bap. 1774.

Any help would be most welcome.

Thank you

James
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 14 February 20 06:30 GMT (UK)
Abraham still at Red Bank 1813 (newspapers)
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: minijimaus on Friday 14 February 20 06:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks Mckha489, I'll chase down that reference.
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 14 February 20 07:00 GMT (UK)
Another baptism with father Abraham COLLIER (hatter) is:
26 Apr 1772     Sarah      St Peter, Blackley    Abode: Manchester

There is also a burial:
24 Jan 1796       St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich
James Collier - Son of Abraham Collier    Abode: Red Bank

(Lancs opc)
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 14 February 20 07:08 GMT (UK)
The 1841 census for Charles in Stockport includes a wife Mary and son Robert 25 - all not born in the county.   Have you managed to find where Robert was born?   

My grandfather was a hatter in Stockport and the town was well known for hat manufacture so a reasonable move if it was the right family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Works

Kay
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: minijimaus on Friday 14 February 20 07:14 GMT (UK)
Kay99,

Thank you for the information. I've seen Charles and Mary in the 1841 census, but have yet to find a record of Robert's birth. I'll keep looking.

Cheers

James
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: minijimaus on Friday 14 February 20 07:16 GMT (UK)
Another baptism with father Abraham COLLIER (hatter) is:
26 Apr 1772     Sarah      St Peter, Blackley    Abode: Manchester

There is also a burial:
24 Jan 1796       St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich
James Collier - Son of Abraham Collier    Abode: Red Bank

(Lancs opc)

Maddys52

Great information, thanks. It all helps build a stronger picture of the ancestor I'm chasing.

Cheers

James
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 14 February 20 07:22 GMT (UK)
There is also this advertisement in 1787 that may be your Abraham

"TAKEN UP
A small GREYHOUND female  dog
Whoever will own the same by its Marks, and pay the necessary Expenses, may have it again, by applying to Abraham Collier, at the Wheat Sheaf, Red Bank, Manchester. If not owned in a Fortnight's Time, it will be sold to defray the same."
Mancester Mercury, Tuesday,  June 5, 1787

(Italics in original)
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 14 February 20 07:23 GMT (UK)
Too funny - Small greyhound "female dog" is not what the article says, but RootsChat won't let me print what the original says "bi..ch"  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: minijimaus on Friday 14 February 20 07:24 GMT (UK)
There is also this advertisement in 1787 that may be your Abraham

"TAKEN UP
A small GREYHOUND female female dog
Whoever will own the same by its Marks, and pay the necessary Expenses, may have it again, by applying to Abraham Collier, at the Wheat Sheaf, Red Bank, Manchester. If not owned in a Fortnight's Time, it will be sold to defray the same."
Mancester Mercury, Tuesday,  June 5, 1787

(Italics in original)

Maddys 52

Great stuff! A lost (female) dog! It helps locate Abraham in Manchester in 1787.

Cheers

James
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 14 February 20 07:42 GMT (UK)
Another baptism with father Abraham COLLIER (hatter) is:
26 Apr 1772     Sarah      St Peter, Blackley    Abode: Manchester


Burial:  28 Jul 1777     St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich
Sarah Collier - Daughter of Abram Collier    Abode: Manchester.
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: minijimaus on Friday 14 February 20 07:44 GMT (UK)
Another baptism with father Abraham COLLIER (hatter) is:
26 Apr 1772     Sarah      St Peter, Blackley    Abode: Manchester


Burial:  28 Jul 1777     St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich
Sarah Collier - Daughter of Abram Collier    Abode: Manchester.

Maddys52

Another piece of the puzzle - thanks.

James
Title: Re: Information on Charles Collier bap. 1774 Manchester Cathedral
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 14 February 20 12:05 GMT (UK)

From the Manchester Non conformist births and baptisms


Robert Collier
Birth Date:16 Aug 1813
Birth Place:Lancashire, England
Baptism Date:18 Feb 1814
Baptism Place:   Macclesfield, Lancashire, England
Church:Mount Tabor Methodist New Connexion Chapel
Father Name:Charles Collier
Mother Name:Mary Collier

Robert, 2nd son of Charles and Mary Collier, Adswood Parish, of Cheadle was born 12th January 1814 and christened 18th February 1814 registered at the Mount Tabor Chapel by me John Barrington Howard.