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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: leonaVDW on Thursday 06 February 20 20:06 GMT (UK)
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The question has been asked and for the most part answered, but I could not get back to it after registering an account.
I have found on the USA 1910 census a page with a list of names of those who were receiving these medals and clasps. There is one John Henry Farrell, regiment number 389, who was present at the operations Defence of Kimberley; Relief of Mafeking; Orange Free State and Transvaal. This sounds very much like my great-great grandfather, but how will I verify and confirm that it is him? Is there somewhere that at least his wife's name was noted? His age?Date of birth? Place of birth? Death? The remarks on the doc is feint, and of course I don't understand the meaning of it.
I attach a copy of the page, and hope that someone can advise. Much appreciated, thank you in advance. (PS an error occurred - my image was too large)
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He served in District 2 of the Cape Police. This is what the Anglo Boer War web site says about the attestation papers for the Cape Police:
https://www.angloboerwar.com/unit-information/south-african-units/310-cape-mounted-police?start=1 You may wish to try the contact given
The National Archives document WO 100/240 is the Queens South Africa Medal record, you can download the whole thing for free
.https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3764004 he is on page 254 and 378
He seems to have gone on to serve in Scotts Railway Guards after the Boer War, there is a date in 1907 associated with that.
These do not of course have proof it is your relative but the attestation papers, if they survive, might.
MaxD
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Wow, thank you very much!
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There is more!
J H Farrell service in Scotts Railway Guards gained him another medal, the King's South Africa Medal with clasps South Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902. The medal roll, which again can be downloaded free is here:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3764034. Can't see the page number but he is about halfway through.
He has a different service number but both this roll and the other one cross reference each other.
It is also in WO 100/359.
BUT - it seems that his entitlement to the KSA (that only has to do with exactly when he served in S Africa) was queried and one clasp (1901) made to be returned in 1907/08
Now for the news good/bad - these records state that medals were issued to the man at 13 Catherine Street Waterford in Jan 1908.
There is even more (I do hope this is your man!) He also qualified for the Cape of Good Hope General Service Medal with the clasp Bechuanaland, details of which are here:
https://www.angloboerwar.com/medals-and-awards/non-boer-war/292-cgh-gsm?showall=1
If you enter his name and initials it refers to his listing on the CGHGSM medal roll. That roll does not appear to be in the National Archives. (Found - see below)
His medal records need a bit more sorting out but I'd rather wait a bit to see if the address makes a connection.
Over to you,
MaxD
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Waterford Standard, 3 Nov 1906
DIED
FARRELL - on 29 October 1906, at her residence, 13 Catherine Street, Waterford, Emily, the dearly loved wife of William H Farrell, Shipbroker, 13, Quay
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Brilliant work, MaxD :)
Waterford Standard, 3 Nov 1906
DIED
FARRELL - on 29 October 1906, at her residence, 13 Catherine Street, Waterford, Emily, the dearly loved wife of William H Farrell, Shipbroker, 13, Quay
Emily Josephine Farrell 1906
Informant was her son-in-law, Horace Joseph.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05545/4555372.pdf
KG
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Birth Registration
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03170/2162937.pdf
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Thank you Kiltaglassan and henes teulu for the Irish dimension.
On tenterhooks now to know whether this is LeonaVDW's g g grandfather.
MaxD
PS CGHGSM medal roll here:
https://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/cape_good_hope_medal_roll_a_b.htm (on the E-G page)
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On tenterhooks now to know ....
MaxD
Me too!
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Let me know if I need to reply to each one seperately...
Alas!!!! This man is too young. Information I got from the Anglo Boer War page says he was 24 years old when he enlisted. My Gg grandfather had 5 children already by the start of ABW. 1st child born 1868, supposedly in Kimberley, last child born 1886 Mafeking. The family also lived somewhere between Mafeking and Bulawayo [as known at the time] late 1800s-early1900s. That's why my heart lept when I saw the basic information.
Thank you all so very much for your time and looking the information up. I appreciate each one, and happy to have come across this website!
I am so dissappointed though, as I wanted to be done with searching, and also to surprise his living great grands who have no information on him.
Regards to each one!
Leona.
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One day chicken, next day feathers :)
You are most welcome. Apart from the fact that it keeps me off the streets, I certainly learn something new with almost every bit of digging around so none of the research is wasted - who knows, John Henry's descendants may turn up one day looking for information!
You seem to have a lot of information up to the 1900s. Is it now a question of filling in the gap between then and now? Posting on the S Africa board may be worth doing?
Good luck!
MaxD
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Thanks MaxD!