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Title: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: Lemacque on Monday 20 January 20 10:35 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I've finally managed to get a copy of my Grandads RN service record from the national archives, and have a few questions regarding the content:

1. What does the "SC" under Ship in which serving relate to? Submarine Course?, confined to cells?
2. Bottom of first page is a comment: "Dept I.G.CB 5/2/43 S161 Canada" (I think its I.G.CB, hard to decipher second character) Anyone know what this is?
3. Page 2 has a comment under ships in which serving: "A/Sdg Sto ty 1/2/44 S161" Again, any help with this phrase is welcomed.
4. Page 1, Badges: what do the G, D, or R stand for?
5. Any help with meaning of the notes in the Remarks section on Page 2 (I get the obvious ones about absence, break out, disobedience)
Page 1 has a statement "joined R?R 21/6/39 DEV B16820" is this RNR, and what does the DEV B16820 stand for?

Couple of assumptions I'm making:

Drake 4 is HMS Drake here in Devonport
Pyramus is RN shore establishment in Kirkwall, Orkney
Eaglet is RN shore establishment Liverpool

Any help greatly appreciated! :-)

Title: Re: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: philipsearching on Monday 20 January 20 13:19 GMT (UK)
5. Any help with meaning of the notes in the Remarks section on Page 2 (I get the obvious ones about absence, break out, disobedience)
Page 1 has a statement "joined R?R 21/6/39 DEV B16820" is this RNR, and what does the DEV B16820 stand for?
Quick initial response:

Vide - Latin for see - so all entries beginning Vide  mean "See the ledger for (whatever date)" where the detail would be recorded.

RFR = Royal Fleet Reserve - I may be corrected on this, but I think the RFR was for merchant seamen, the RNR (Royal Naval Reserve) was for former Navy men and the RNVR (Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve) was for volunteers without previous professional maritime employment.

Philip
Title: Re: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: philipsearching on Monday 20 January 20 13:31 GMT (UK)
3. Page 2 has a comment under ships in which serving: "A/Sdg Sto ty 1/2/44 S161" Again, any help with this phrase is welcomed.

Could the S be a curly L? - A/Ldg Sto ty

This would give: Acting Leading Stoker (temporary)

Title: Re: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 20 January 20 13:36 GMT (UK)
Apparently an S161 was a form on which changes in rating etc were notified. See http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/help-required-to-decipher-a-royal-navy-service-record.75633/
Title: Re: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: crimea1854 on Monday 20 January 20 14:12 GMT (UK)
Re the badges: GC.1 notes the award of a good conduct badge, actually a stripe worn on the sleeve, D1 notes the loss of a 'badge' and R1 its reinstatement. Important to the man because each badge earned additional daily pay, but this money was only paid out at set times i.e. 'Lady Day', and if a badge was lost so was all monies earned to that point.

You might already be aware, but FB (Former Book) at the start of service indicates he has an earlier record.

Martin
Title: Re: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: Lemacque on Monday 20 January 20 15:47 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the replies so far, very helpful.
Still struggling to fill the Aug 41 to Feb 44 gap as I can't make out where he was
Title: Re: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 20 January 20 17:14 GMT (UK)
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Still struggling to fill the Aug 41 to Feb 44 gap as I can't make out where he was

He was attached to HMS Eaglet from August 1941
Title: Re: Help needed decoding Grandad's RN service record
Post by: Lemacque on Monday 20 January 20 17:50 GMT (UK)
That what I thought, but wasn't sure about the statement  "Dept I.G.CB 5/2/43 S161 Canada"