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Title: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: EdCan on Monday 20 January 20 03:44 GMT (UK)

Harry was born abt 1862 and died 25 Mar 1907 India. He married Fanny Byford 12 Nov 1894 in India.Fanny born 1868 Suffolk and died 30 Oct 1934 Ipswich.
Harry was an engineer and trained at Thomasson College in India and worked for the East India Company from 1884 up to his death. Since he trained at Thomasson I get the feeling that he may have been born in India but that may be wrong.
Any ideas where to look/

Ed

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Magiccat1978 on Monday 20 January 20 04:44 GMT (UK)

Hi
I had a look at the marriage you mentioned and it seems Humfress was not Harrys birth name. the entry read Harry Humfress formerly STUART. His father id listed as William Stuart. hope this helps

Magiccat

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 January 20 04:50 GMT (UK)

And two witnesses at the wedding were George Humfress and Blanche Humfress

Kay

Added - A George Humfress married Eleanor Blanche Ball on 8 March 1881 in Cawnpore, Calcutta - his father is listed a George Humfress

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Magiccat1978 on Monday 20 January 20 05:02 GMT (UK)

Theres a marriage between a George Humfress and and Eleanor Blanche Ball in 1881 in Cawnpore, Bengal. Its the only one I can find in roughly the right time period, not sure how it all fits together right now will keep looking. Is it possible Blanche is his mother and she remarried George ?
Off to search some more

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 January 20 05:12 GMT (UK)

I think George Humfress died 1904 in Agra and his birth year is listed as 1854

Also found a birth of a George Humfress in 1854 in Ipswich Suffolk that might be relevant

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 January 20 05:46 GMT (UK)

Not sure it helps but the Army Births on F M P lists four siblings whose father was in 34th Regiment

George Humfress 1854 Ipswich
Jessie Humfress 1849 Ipswich
Mary C Humfress 1851 Ipswich
Kate Humfress 1856 Lucknow

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 January 20 06:00 GMT (UK)

This looks relevant

10 Mar 1861  Jessie Lousia Humfress  (widow) age 26 married William Stuart (corporal 34th Reg) age 26 at Fyzabad, Begnal   Jessie's father is listed as Robert Tunmer

There is a marriage in Ipswich Suffolk in Jan 1848 for a George Humfress to a Jessie Tunmer  so Harry Humfress born Stuart was the brother of George  Humfress b 1854 Ipswich from his mother's second marriage to William Stuart

Added  -  26 February 1848 - The Suffolk Chronicle  On Sunday last, Mr. George Humfress, musician, to Jessie, third daughter of the late Mr. Robert Tunmer, both of Ipswich.

Essex Standard 16 January 1861 -  Death of George Humfress 20 Oct - Band Master General of Her Majesties Forces in India ans late music master and organmaster of Ipswich

Interesting info on George Humfress born 1854 Ipswich https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/George_Humfress

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 January 20 06:46 GMT (UK)

However I can't see a baptism for a Harry Stuart  :-\

Have you had any success Magiccat??

Kay

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: EdCan on Monday 20 January 20 15:03 GMT (UK)

Thanks for having a look. Sorry that I neglected to mention the Stuart connection. Kind of important.
I wonder if Harry was born before the 1861 marriage of Jessie Louisa Humfress to Williiam Stuart?

Ed

Title: Re: Harry Humfress birth location
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 January 20 17:06 GMT (UK)

If he was born pre the marriage he should be the son of George Humfress, given that George died about 6 months before his wife's Jessie's remarriage.   

I would think the probility was that Harry was born post the 1861 marriage.

Kay