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Title: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Martian123 on Thursday 16 January 20 12:52 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

The 1851,1861,1871 census list a wife Mary of Thomas Clarke (1793 - 1860) a vet from West Ashby, Lincs.  Mary was born around 1801 in Martin, Lincs but I can't find her marriage or birth records for her children so cannot find he details.  Thomas did have a will - referenced in teh index of wills but again I can't find an copy of it.

Thanks in advance for any help

Martin.
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 16 January 20 13:01 GMT (UK)
1851 has three children born after start of registration
HO107/2107 f411 p1

From GRO index
CLARKE, ALBERT       mmn ALLEN 
1840  Dec Quarter in THE HORNCASTLE UNION  Volume 14  Page 395

CLARKE, ELIZA       mmn ALLEN 
1842  Sept Quarter in THE HORNCASTLE UNION  Volume 14  Page 410

CLARKE, EMMA       mmn ALLEN 
1842  Sept Quarter in THE HORNCASTLE UNION  Volume 14  Page 410
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 16 January 20 13:08 GMT (UK)
They married by Licence 20 Jan 1829 at Hull, Holy Trinity - image is on FindMyPast
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Martian123 on Thursday 16 January 20 14:29 GMT (UK)
Rosie99,  Thanks for that - I guess the only way to see the image is to pay for FindMyPast access ?
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 16 January 20 14:37 GMT (UK)
It may be worth looking on familysearch, they sometimes have these images.  Local libraries often have access to F M P
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Martian123 on Thursday 16 January 20 15:25 GMT (UK)
Rosie99,  Good call - there is a little more detail there,  well a surname,

If this is the right marriage (Thomas Clarke to Mary Allen on 20 Jan 1829), that makes sense as their son was Thomas Allen Clarke, There is also a Mary Allen baptised in feb 1801 in Timberland (next to Martin)

However, I can't understand why they would be married in Hull when Lincoln and Newark are closer ? I can see Holy Trinity is a grand church

Any ideas ?
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Tuesday 21 January 20 19:46 GMT (UK)
The will is listed on the gov.uk probate site (page 13 of the results I'm looking at;

28 July 1860

Died 28 June 1860, proved on the oaths of Frederick Dear of Wispington and John Scholey of West Ashby.

Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Tom Piper on Tuesday 21 January 20 20:12 GMT (UK)
If I remember right the reason people would go to Trinity Church Hull rather than their local church to get married was because it was a church where if there were people in the family against the marriage, then couples would go to the church in Hull, and get married instead.
Tom
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Tom Piper on Tuesday 21 January 20 20:39 GMT (UK)
The date of his death is on this newspaper article about his will
Stamford Mercury - Friday 21 September 1860
STATUTORY NOTICE to CREDITORS. THOMAS CLARKE, deceased. PURSUANT to the Act of Parliament 22d and 23d Victoria, c. 35, intituled "An Act to further amend the Law of Property and to relieve Trustees," all Persons claiming to be Creditors of THOMAS CLARKE, late of West Ashby, in the county of Lincoln, veterinary Surgeon, deceased who died on the 26th day of June, 1860, are hereby required to send or before the 20th day of October next the particulars of their Debts or Claims to me, at my Office in Horncastle, to the said county of Lincoln, or in default thereof the Executors under the Will of the said Thomas Clarke, deceased, will, after the said 20th day of October next distribute the Assets of the said Thomas Clarke, deceased, amongst the parties entitled thereto, having regard to the Debts or Claims of which they shall then have had notice; and all Persons owing any Money to the Estate of the said Thomas Clarke, deceased are requested to pay the amount forthwith at my Office.—Dated this Fourteenth day of September, one thousand eight hundred and sixty. FRED. W. TWEED, Solicitor for the Executors of the late THOMAS CLARKE, deceased Horncastle, 14th September, 1860.

Tom
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Tuesday 21 January 20 20:44 GMT (UK)
I've had one or two "black sheep" abscond to Hull after committing the odd crime.

A few weeks residing in Hull would give bride and groom "of this parish" status away from the prying eyes of family across the vast stretch of water known as the Humber.
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Martian123 on Tuesday 21 January 20 23:08 GMT (UK)
Glen, Tom,

Thanks so much for you help - I wonder if Mary Allen was not approved of by the family on Thomas , he was a vet as were his mother and father.

martin.
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Tom Piper on Wednesday 22 January 20 09:42 GMT (UK)
Yes Thomas Clarke's father was a veterinary surgeon as this newspaper article shows. After the death of Thomas Clarke in 1860, the land that had been owned by him went up for auction. I enclose the newspaper article from British Newspaper Archive.

Stamford Mercury - Friday 31 August 1860
WEST ASHBY, near HORNCASTLE VALUABLE FREE HOLD ESTATE To be SOLD BY AUCTION, By Mr. LONGSTAFF At the New Inn in Horncastle, on Saturday the 1st September, 1860, at Five o'clock in the Evening, in the following or such other lots as may be agreed upon at the time of sale, and subject to such conditions as will be then and there produced, THE following very valuable Freehold ESTATE, situate in West Ashby aforesaid, consisting of— Lot 1. ALL that Messuage or Tenement, called Poplar-place, and the Stables, Coach-house, and other Out buildings, and the Yard and Garden adjoining the same, containing OA 3R. 10P. (more or less) wT;. 0 3 10.
 Also all that Close of Land adjoining thereto and occupied therewith, containing by recent survey 3A. 0R. 10P., bounded on the north by lot 5 and lands of William Glazier respectively, on the east by lands of the Devisees of the late Michael Croft, 0n the south by lot 2, and on the west by the road leading from Horncastle to Hemingby, late in the  occupation of Thomas Clarke, deceased.  3 0 10
Lot 1 is especially worthy the attention of Veterinary-Surgeons, an extensive and lucrative business of a veterinary-surgeon having been established and carried thereon by the late owner and his father for upwards or 50 years. Possession will be given at Lady-day next—The whole or part of the purchase-money may remain on approved security.—For further particulars apply to Mr. Clarke, of West Ashby, who will show the property; Mr. Scholey, of West Ashby, farmer; Mr. Dear, of Wispington, farmer; or at my Office. FRED. W. TWEED, Solicitor, Horncastle, 13th August, 1860. Homcastle

Tom
Title: Re: Marriage of Thomas Clarke in 1820s
Post by: Martian123 on Wednesday 22 January 20 13:57 GMT (UK)
Tom,

Again huge thanks, ancestry is all about the stories imo so this is great to read.