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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Lisajb on Tuesday 14 January 20 20:26 GMT (UK)
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I have found a marriage via the Victoria public records website that is of interest to me, but it looks as though there is no further information to be had unless I buy the certificate. Could someone please confirm or suggest other sources of info?
The marriage is between Ruth Hicks and James Robert Davis in 1857.
Thanks
Lisa
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Announcement in The Age, 15 Dec 1857
On the 9th December, by license, by Mr. Mouritz, minister
of the Baptist Chapel, Prince's street, Collingwood, Mr James
Davis, second son of James Davis, tobacconist, late of Bristol,
to Ruth, eldest daughter of Mr Hicks, coach builder, Bristol,
England. Bristol papers please copy.
Here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154834642
Also in The Age, 16 Jan 1858 (next column!)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154855841
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That’s wonderful, thank you so much.
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Sadly though it confirms she is not the lady I am looking for, as mine was not the eldest daughter, and her father was a felt hat maker, not a coach builder.
Thank you for your efforts
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Sadly though it confirms she is not the lady I am looking for, as mine was not the eldest daughter, and her father was a felt hat maker, not a coach builder.
Do you have more information on your Ruth Hicks and we can see if we can help?
Where born? Parents names? Siblings?
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Sadly though it confirms she is not the lady I am looking for, as mine was not the eldest daughter, and her father was a felt hat maker, not a coach builder.
Do you have more information on your Ruth Hicks and we can see if we can help?
Where born? Parents names? Siblings?
There were two Ruth Hicks born in Bitton/Oldland Gloucestershire in 1838. Mine has parents George (the felt hat maker, b1790) and Mary, and baptised 22 July 1838 in Oldland.
The other has parents Daniel and Elizabeth, and was baptised 3 April 1838.
Just to complicate things even more, there’s a 3rd Ruth Hicks b1839 in Bristol to William and Mary Ann, and a 4th born 1843, although slightly further afield in Thornbury, Gloucestershire.
I definitely have my Ruth in 1841 and 1851 census with parents. There is a possibly in 1861, as a servant at the vicarage, but that could be the other Ruth.
I had a previous thread about her. I’ll just go and find it for reference.
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Previous thread for reference
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=791977.msg6480239#msg6480239
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There were two Ruth Hicks born in Bitton/Oldland Gloucestershire in 1838.
Mine has parents George (the felt hat maker, b1790) and Mary,
and baptised 22 July 1838 in Oldland.
The other has parents Daniel and Elizabeth, and was baptised 3 April 1838.
Just to complicate things even more, there’s a 3rd Ruth Hicks b1839 in Bristol to William and Mary Ann, and a 4th born 1843, although slightly further afield in Thornbury, Gloucestershire.
I definitely have my Ruth in 1841 and 1851 census with parents.
There is a possibly in 1861, as a servant at the vicarage, but that could be the other Ruth.
I had a previous thread about her. I’ll just go and find it for reference.
Previous thread for reference
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=791977.msg6480239#msg6480239
For info.
This looks to be the Ruth that married in Australia
Ruth HICKS Age:19
Arrival Date: 20 Aug 1857 Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Undaunted
Nationality: English and Welsh
To help others looking - your Ruth on
1851 census HO107/1944/71 p 37
Court Lane, Hamlet of Bitton, Keynsham, Gloucestershire
George Hicks Head Hatter Bitton, Gloucestershire
Mary Hicks Wife Hat Trimmer Bitton, Gloucestershire
Ann Hicks Daughter Dressmaker Bitton, Gloucestershire
Evan Hicks Son Ag Lab Bitton, Gloucestershire
Phoebe Hicks Daughter Bitton, Gloucestershire
Ruth Hicks Daughter Bitton, Gloucestershire
Clement Hicks Son Bitton, Gloucestershire
Sidney Hicks Son Bitton, Gloucestershire
There are also these marriages for a Ruth Hicks that can be ruled out due to father's name
To Henry John Jones at St James Bristol on 12 April 1865
Ruth’s father name is Edmund Hicks
To Wiliam Dunston on the 17th Oct 1868 at Richmond Surrey
Ruth’s father name is James Hicks
To William Haddrell at Holy Trinity Clifton Bristol on 12 Feb 1872
Ruth’s father name is James Hicks
Haven’t been able to find marriage details for these entries
Jun 1861
HICKS Ruth Gower 11a 726
Howell Edward Gower 11a 726
Morgan Daniel Gower 11a 726
WALTERS Matilda Gower 11a 726
Sep 1863
Hicks Ruth Bicester 3a 877
Perrott William Bicester 3a 877
This couple can be found on 1881 census
Piece: 2053 Folio: 44 Page Number: 1
William Perrott 40 Wiltshire Elementary Schoolmaster
Ruth Perrott 40 Bitton Gloucester, School mistress
Lelia Perrott 13 Great Billing Northamptonshire
Edith Perrott 10
Maud Perrott 7
Dora Perrott 4
Jessie Perrott Younger Than 1
1871 census RG10; Piece: 1480; Folio: 11; Page: 16
gives Ruth’s pob Oldland Gloucester bn c 1840
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Thank you. I think a certificate purchase or three may be called for, to rule in or out.
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Sep 1863
Hicks Ruth Bicester 3a 877
Perrott William Bicester 3a 877
This couple can be found on 1881 census
Piece: 2053 Folio: 44 Page Number: 1
William Perrott 40 Wiltshire Elementary Schoolmaster
Ruth Perrott 40 Bitton Gloucester, School mistress
Lelia Perrott 13 Great Billing Northamptonshire
Edith Perrott 10
Maud Perrott 7
Dora Perrott 4
Jessie Perrott Younger Than 1
1871 census RG10; Piece: 1480; Folio: 11; Page: 16
gives Ruth’s pob Oldland Gloucester bn c 1840
I'm wondering if the above Ruth nee Hicks is the daughter of Daniel Hicks as on the 1851 census Ruth has a sister called Pamela.
The bpt. of William & Ruth PERROTT's daughter Lelia her middle name is Pamela
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I definitely have my Ruth in 1841 and 1851 census with parents.
There is a possibly in 1861, as a servant at the vicarage, but that could be the other Ruth.
Not found this Ruth Hicks on 1871 census :-\ so the question is has she married?
She can't be the Ruth Hicks that married in Australia as the marriage was in 1857
and if the
Ruth Hicks that married William Perrott in 1863 - a shame the marriage is not viewable on line to confirm if her father's name was Daniel.
Piece: 1698 Folio: 30 Page Number: 7
Bitton Village Vicarage
Henry N Ellacombe 39 Vicar of Bitton
Emily A Ellacombe 28
Isabella C Nicholsen 23
Willmott H W Ellacombe 7
Mary W Ellacombe 5
Agnes W Ellacombe 4
Isabella H Ellacombe 2
Frances A Ellacombe 92
Rosaline Frond 20
Esther Love 20
Lucinda Wills 19
Ruth Hicks 22 Bitton Gloucestershire, Nurse Domestic Servant
Sophia Sindrey 14
William Wathen 13
A very strong possibility the above Ruth might be yours.
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I’ve ordered the 1863 marriage certificate to rule in or out.
I have wondered about Ruth who is the domestic servant in 1861 - but if this is her, what happened to her afterwards?
For the marriages in Gower, I’ve found Edward together with Ruth, but in 1871 her place of birth is in Wales, so she’s ruled out.
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You can also rule out this marriage in St Column Cornwall 8 Jun 1870
Ruth’s father RICHARD Hicks
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There is this Ruth on 1881 census
RG11/2445/28 p1
Oldland Common High Street Bitton Gloucestershire
Ruth Harding 42 WidowSeamstress
George Harding 15
Alfred Harding 13
Gilbert Harding 11
Maurice Harding 4
the 1871 census gives Ruth's her pob as Bromley Essex ???
RG10/2499/18 p1
George Harding 28
Ruth Harding 31
George Daniel Harding 5 Bitton Gloucestershire
Alfred Edward Harding 3
Gilbert James Harding 1
Wondering if this is the marriage entry
Marriages Mar 1865
Harding George Poplar 1c 954
Hicks Ruth Poplar 1c 954
Leeder Maria
Matthews Susannah
Matthews Thomas
ADDED - from GRO indexes
George Daniel HARDING mmn HICKS
1866 M Quarter in POPLAR UNION Volume 01C Page 649
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I’ve ordered the 1863 marriage certificate to rule in or out.
Please come back and let us know the result - fingers crossed she might be your Ruth :)
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Estimated despatch date is 20th January.
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The certificate arrived today - and the father of this Ruth is Daniel Hicks.
Back to the drawing board ??? :-X
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The certificate arrived today - and the father of this Ruth is Daniel Hicks.
Back to the drawing board ??? :-X
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It's a shame the 1865 marriage in Poplar to George Harding is not available to view on line (reply 13)
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There is this Ruth on 1881 census
RG11/2445/28 p1
Oldland Common High Street Bitton Gloucestershire
Ruth Harding 42 WidowSeamstress
George Harding 15
Alfred Harding 13
Gilbert Harding 11
Maurice Harding 4
the 1871 census gives Ruth's her pob as Bromley Essex ???
RG10/2499/18 p1
George Harding 28
Ruth Harding 31
George Daniel Harding 5 Bitton Gloucestershire
Alfred Edward Harding 3
Gilbert James Harding 1
Wondering if this is the marriage entry
Marriages Mar 1865
Harding George Poplar 1c 954
Hicks Ruth Poplar 1c 954
Leeder Maria
Matthews Susannah
Matthews Thomas
ADDED - from GRO indexes
George Daniel HARDING mmn HICKS
1866 M Quarter in POPLAR UNION Volume 01C Page 649
In 1881 this Ruth’s POB is given as Oldland Common, Oldland and Bitton are very close together.
I think I may have to order this marriage certificate as well...
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For anyone interested in Bitton/Oldland family and local history, there is a Bitton History Group website. The village is about 6 miles from both Bristol and Bath, in South Gloucestershire. There is also a Facebook group called Hanham, Longwell Green, Oldland and Bitton memories which includes old photos of the area, reference to items found in newspapers and archives, more about Ellacombe and the vicarage, and also felt hat making in the area. Kingswood Heritage Museum is another source, as are Gloucester and Bristol Archives, and occasionally records in Somerset Archives as area came under Keynsham Union workhouse at one stage.