RootsChat.Com
England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: mgeneas on Tuesday 14 January 20 18:49 GMT (UK)
-
Most of you know Alan Clarke's website at http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/index.html
Because of the cost of maintaining it, in the beginning of February it will be no more.
Any suggestions of where to host some of the content (free) are welcome.
Besides the Baptism, Marriage and Burial Indexes (which are for sale - or free lookups available) you can find free to view
Military Marriages in the county extracted from the marriage index
Northampton Hospital Admissions
WW1 Soldier Index
WW1 Roll of Honour
Newspaper Index 1833-1848
Northampton Independent Articles from 1909-1932
Militia Index 1762
Wills Index 1852-1857
Miscellaneous Wills transcriptions
Northampton Police Register
Northampton St Giles and St Sepulchre Removals/Settlements
Northamptonshire Strays Index (12,000 marriages of Northants folk who married in other counties)
Travellers index taken from the1751-1812 baptism transcriptions
Local Maps
Old photographs of Northampton town streets
and more......
-
Sorry to hear that Marilyn. Such a lot of work by you and Alan and others has gone into the stuff on Alan's webpages. I hope that you are successful in finding good homes for it all.
Tony
-
Thanks Tony - I hope so too.
Marilyn
-
I am sadly counting down the days until the web site disappears .
It will be a great loss to so many Northants Researchers and it had so much more than just Parish Records etc (as previously listed) and will be a great loss to the free information contained on it that took years to compile.
I am just thankful to have purchased so many of the cd's etc.
Thank you both (and all who contributed) for a brilliant web site and hopefully you will find another to host what are in-valuable records of our County.
Sandy
-
The last day will be about Feb 4th.
-
Tony I have spent nearly all week-end downloading anything I needed.
Now I need to check my cd's to make sure I have them all.
Sandy
-
Hi Sandy
I had a look immediately as well. Early on in my research Marilyn was kind enough to do a one name scan of Alan's records for me and of course since then so much has been copied to sites like Ancestry. However there is no substitute for the all the other records Alan and Marilyn amassed over many years - pioneers in many ways.
Like so many people who visit this forum, distance makes visiting the Northampton record office fairly impracticable so being able to obtain records from Alan & Marilyn was vital.
Tony
-
I agree Tony.
I live in the County and have not visited the Record Office for many a year.
It is a nightmare getting there and with reduced hours there and the Library.
I always remember when we lost the Barrall Marriage Index so suddenly.
It was a brilliant index having Registry Office Marriages etc on it too.
I will be sad to see other people's information on their families etc dis-appear also.
I directed a lady from New Zealand elsewhere to the Collins page that Alan hosts as I recognized a link, a week from now that would not have been possible. I therefore am glad about that.
We still have the Northants Family History and other links for Northants still.
I luckily have quite an amount of my own indexes and images for the County so feel grateful
that I will still be able to help folk.
Sandy
-
Good news as the Northamptonshire Family History Society will be hosting the strays index on their website. I will let you know when it goes live!
Marilyn
-
It would be great if Alan told us when it is no longer to be on line as he is a Rootschatter (or was).
It is still on-line today.
Sandy
-
Its sad when sites close, but there is a cost for hosting which may be affordable when it starts out but gets more expensive as time goes by.
On the upside, this site does seem to have been captured by the way back machine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200128210748/http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/index.html
I haven't checked it to see if all the links etc work (sometimes the captures don't get everything that was on the site) but its worth looking there when the site goes awol.
Boo
-
As of today (or yesterday) the website is no more Sandy.
-
I will check tomorrow then.
Sandy
-
The front page is still viewable. The links on page worked this morning, gone now.
Sandy
-
and I have just tried it again on webarchive.
Again I haven't tested all the links but the one I did click on - Northampton Hospital Admissions Index
worked fine. The pdf opened in my browser and, should I wish to, I could have saved it from there to my pc.
Boo
-
Just tried again and got this. :(
Sandy
-
Just a thought if it's not too late. Maybe interested readers of this Rootschat forum could club together and offer small donations to support the cost of keeping the website online.
My own family history website, which currently occupies about 2GB on the ISP server, costs me £60 per year. It has been hosted there for nearly 15 years and their support and backup has been excellent. (The company is based in Leeds. I could provide reference if of interest)
As a side note, I heard from the Chair of the Northamptsonshire FHS recently that NFHS will be hosting the Strays index on their website and possibly some others in due course.
Alan
-
I have just found this link hosting the Marriage Strays for Northants.
https://doczz.net/doc/456485/northants-marriage-index-strays-by-bride
Sandy
-
Alan's Northamptonshire site was a wonderful resource as was Pickards pink pages.
The links to much of Alan's site no longer work.
It is a great loss to those who are just starting up in genealogy and we oldies who regarded it as a old friend.
I woul be glad to make a small contibution to keep it going.
Sandy,
Thank you for all your help to me in the past.
-
Hi Lola5.
Sadly it is no more.
Luckily I managed to download as much as I could as I am sure others did too.
We all help each other here and are privileged to have a forum to do so. :)
Sandy
-
Most of you know Alan Clarke's website at http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/index.html
Because of the cost of maintaining it, in the beginning of February it will be no more.
Any suggestions of where to host some of the content (free) are welcome.
I think
https://sites.google.com/
Is free - as long as you don’t use your own domain name.
-
Go to Wayback Machine run by Internet Archive
https://archive.org/web/
Type in, or copy and paste in the box the original site's URL "Enter a URL or words relating to a site's home page"
http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/index.html
Click browse history (or press return key after entering URL in the box)
Next the annual bar chart appears across the page indicating this site has been crawled and saved 52 times by the Wayback Machine between 2012 and 2019 (the year before Alan said he was closing it in 2020).
Scroll down the page to the 2019 annual calendar and click on a highlighted day of 29 December and you should get what is known as a snapshot "December 29, 2019" "1 snapshot" and highlighted in blue is a link "15:55:08" ... click the numbers and you get a new Internet Archive address to the website saved on that date.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191004233746/http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/
I don't make purchases from a saved website.
Mark
Thanks Boo, sorry I missed your direct link to webarchive. Hopefully the instructions might be useful for others to find other now defunct websites.
I went to the British Library https://www.bl.uk/collection-guides/uk-web-archive, and then to the UK web archive website of old websites, but couldn't get a return for the site.
-
Go to Wayback Machine run by Internet Archive
https://archive.org/web/
Type in, or copy and paste in the box the original site's URL "Enter a URL or words relating to a site's home page"
http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/index.html
Click browse history (or press return key after entering URL in the box)
Next the annual bar chart appears across the page indicating this site has been crawled and saved 52 times by the Wayback Machine between 2012 and 2019 (the year before Alan said he was closing it in 2020).
Scroll down the page to the 2019 annual calendar and click on a highlighted day of 29 December and you should get what is known as a snapshot "December 29, 2019" "1 snapshot" and highlighted in blue is a link "15:55:08" ... click the numbers and you get a new Internet Archive address to the website saved on that date.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191004233746/http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk/
The website
see also reply 10 and reply 14 in this thread.
I struggle to understand why people ignore the internet archive as a good resource to defunct websites
Boo
-
I don't know if it is relevant or even still available for purchase, but several years ago Alan Clarke and Marilyn Ponting had the whole collection of their indexes transcribed onto a number of CDs. Now that his online website is no more I feel very fortunate in that I bought the set which remains a most valuable source of information.
Whether this source is still available I'm afraid I don't know
Alan
-
Alan's email is
Moderator comment: personal e-mail address removed. Please do not post someone else's personal e-mail. This is to prevent others spamming or abusing it. Thanks
He likely still has the indexes for sale