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Title: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Ibbo2000 on Tuesday 14 January 20 16:41 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I am trying to tidy up a loose end and find a burial record for Elizabeth Allen age 42 (age taken from GRO site) likely the first quarter of 1861. The age would fit in well with other information I have. Likely will be purchasing her death certificate, but would like to find a burial record for her.

I have her husband a widower on the 1861 census living Gooch Street, Birmingham in the Ecclesiastical district of St Lukes and I know he remarries in 1863, his second bride also a widower whose first marriage may have been to a relative of Josephs (still researching this possible connection).

Any help with locating the burial is much appreciated.
Many thanks
Kev.

Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: GenesA on Tuesday 14 January 20 16:44 GMT (UK)
Not sure about this but...

Elizabeth ALLEN
Burial date: 17 June 1861
Burial Place: Key Hill Cemetery, Birmingham
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Ibbo2000 on Tuesday 14 January 20 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi,

That was quick, I had seen that as a possible, but thought the burial date was possibly a little late for a death recorded in the first quarter of the year, and with her husband Joseph recorded as a widower on the 1861 census, which I believe was in April.

Thanks for looking, much appreciated
Kev.
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 14 January 20 17:00 GMT (UK)
1861 census 7 April 1861.

There is also a Birmingham reg dist death for an Elizabeth Allen in June qtr age 1. 
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Bearnan on Tuesday 14 January 20 17:14 GMT (UK)
Birmingham burial records site

Elizabeth Allen
March 1861
Key Hill Cemetery
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Ibbo2000 on Tuesday 14 January 20 17:48 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the replies
1861 census 7 April 1861.

There is also a Birmingham reg dist death for an Elizabeth Allen in June qtr age 1. 

Guessing this Elizabeth Allen age 1 is the Key Hill burial in June.

Birmingham burial records site

Elizabeth Allen
March 1861
Key Hill Cemetery

This sounds promising, is there any chance of finding further details? Would someone living Gooch Street be buried at Key Hill, I don't know Birmingham well and certainly not in 1861. I know from google maps they are not a million miles apart, and Gooch Street would have been much different back then.



Many thanks
Kev.
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Ibbo2000 on Tuesday 14 January 20 18:00 GMT (UK)
Hello again

Have just had a look on Findmypast and missed that two of the four returns for Birmingham in 1861 were potentially different Key Hill burials. One entry indicates the June date, the other has no date given, guessing this is possibly the March burial (assumed both records were for the same burial).

Many thanks
Kev.

Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Ibbo2000 on Tuesday 14 January 20 18:07 GMT (UK)
Sorry to be a bit of a pest, but have clicked through the Findmypast link to the Midland Ancestors Birmingham Cemeteries website and looking at the index it is showing as only one Elizabeth Allen burial in 1861?

Am I missing something?

Thanks
Kev.
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: ScobieDrom on Wednesday 15 January 20 16:39 GMT (UK)
An Elizabeth Allen was buried in Key Hill Cemetery in 1861.   
The burial was in a public grave with 33 other interments.
The details are:-

Grave ID Name: Stokes
Cemetery:  Key Hill
Area:  Graves
Section:  B
Number:  87
Type:  Public
Depth:  Not Known
Interments:  34
Number in Register:  16237

Source:  Jewellery Quarter Research Trust

To obtain an image of the entry in the register you will need to contact Birmingham City Council Bereavement Services at https://birminghamburialrecords.co.uk/
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Ibbo2000 on Thursday 16 January 20 14:24 GMT (UK)
Many thanks ScobieDrom for this information and link, think I might pass on getting an original image,  being buried in March fits in nicely with the GRO death record for the first quarter 1861. Will now order the death certificate as this looks almost certainly like it will be my Elizabeth Allen.

Thanks again to all for the help
Kev.
Title: Re: Looking for a Birmingham burial in 1861
Post by: Ibbo2000 on Wednesday 22 January 20 15:28 GMT (UK)
Many thanks to all who have helped in locating the burial, now have the death certificate for her and she died 10/3/1861, so the March Key Hill burial almost certainly must be her.

Thanks again
Kev.