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Title: McGuire
Post by: xenia1 on Sunday 12 January 20 14:26 GMT (UK)
Looking for Mary MacGuire she married Micheal Barret in Scotland. I would like to find where she was born in Ireland. 
she was a catholic
thank you
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 12 January 20 14:39 GMT (UK)
It would be helpful if you gave us Mary's approx year of birth and the year she married in Scotland. Also we'll need her parents names to distinguish her from the hundreds of Mary McGuire/Maguires in Ireland. If she married in Scotland 1855 onwards, you should get her parents names, occupations and whether they were alive or dead at that date from her civil marriage certificate.
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 12 January 20 15:09 GMT (UK)
There are 2 births and baptisms on the Roman Catholic Records on
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Parents Michael Barret and Mary Macguire

Bridget Barret 29/9/1856 Galashiels Our Lady and St Andrews
......Barret 9/5/1863 same place ..
Another possible surname as Barrot Mary Barrot 1861 Kirkcaldy  father Michael mother Mary

Rosie
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 12 January 20 15:21 GMT (UK)
This could be a possible record for the family 1861 census address Market Place Selkirk
Michael Barret age 60 born Ireland occupation labourer ( looks like a transcription error )
Mary Barret age 27 wife born Ireland
Mary Barret age 9 born Stow Edingburgh
Margaret Barret age 6 born Stow
Bridget Barret age 4 born Stow
Robert Barret age 1 born Selkirk

Note this is a transcription you will get the original on Scotland's People

Rosie
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 12 January 20 15:39 GMT (UK)
By 1871 Mary Barret is on her own with her family
There is a death for a Michael Barret 1865  age 40 in Selkirk mothers maiden name Loftus
Which is a possibility not seeing a marriage so far maybe they married in Ireland ?

1871 address 17,Market Street Selkirk
Mary 37 born Ireland ..
Mary 19,Margaret 17,Bridget 15,Robert 11,Ellen 8

There is also a birth for a Helen Barret 1863 in Selkirk getting a copy of this should give you the parents date of marriage

Rosie
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 12 January 20 16:12 GMT (UK)



R.C. Parish Registers are online Free.

Without a County or Parish..................  virtually impossible!

Yuou'd certainly end up with more than 1 POSSIBLE....H
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 12 January 20 16:13 GMT (UK)




R.C. REGISTERS https://registers.nli.ie/


IF she was R.C.!


Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 12 January 20 17:00 GMT (UK)
Found this marriage Roman Catholic Church
Michael Barrett and Mary Maguire
15/6/1851 Hawick ..SS Mary and David
On Scotland People not sure how much information will be on it

Rosie
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: xenia1 on Sunday 12 January 20 19:11 GMT (UK)
I have Helen Barret who married John Munro in Selkirk in 1890.
On the death of Mary Barret ( MacGuire), Mother was Margaret s......
can't read the surname.

Father was Patrick McGuire.
Thank you
Elaine
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: xenia1 on Sunday 12 January 20 20:40 GMT (UK)
Name:   
Michael Burrit
Spouse's Name:   
Mary Mcguire
Event Date:   
20 May 1851
Event Place:   
Stow,Midlothian, Scotland
Father's Name:   
Robin Burrit
Spouse's Father's Name:   
Patrick Mcguire
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 15 January 20 17:02 GMT (UK)
Name:   
Michael Burrit
Spouse's Name:   
Mary Mcguire
Event Date:   
20 May 1851
Event Place:   
Stow,Midlothian, Scotland
Father's Name:   
Robin Burrit
Spouse's Father's Name:   
Patrick Mcguire

Just noticed this one you must have amended your post as I think you said in the last post some one told you they were married in Ireland ...Did see this couple on the 1851 census

Rosie
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Thursday 23 January 20 21:59 GMT (UK)
using  the 1823-1837 Tithes Applotment Books based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s listing for each parish in Northern Ireland.The relevant original books are in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast . This source is believed to be incomplete and biased, it did cause hardship ,nevertheless it gives an idea where head of household were living. Each record just consists of name and acreage of taxable land
searching for Patrick McGuire MacGuire
12 EXIST IN TABS or 11 parishes to search
McGuire, Patrick    Townland: Carrickbrackan Year: 1835   Killevy      Armagh
McGuire, Patrick    Townland: Carrickbrackan Year: 1835   Killyman   Armagh
McGuire, Patrick   Townland: Coolnasillagh Year: 1825   Errigal      Derry
McGuire, Patk.   Townland: Gortade Year: 1828      Maghera   Derry
McGuire, Patrick   Townland: Carradressix Year: 1829   Kilclief      Down
McGuire, Patk.   Townland: Aughanagh Year: 1834      Cleenish   Fermanagh
McGuire, Patk.   T: Rehall Y: 1835            Derryvullan   Fermanagh
McGuire, Pat.      Tl: Largy Yr: 1828         Magheraculmoney   Fermanagh
McGuire, Pat.      Tl: Coneywarren Yr: 1827         Cappagh   Tyrone
McGuire, Pat.      T: Carnalea Y: 1834            Dromore   Tyrone
McGuire, Patk.   T: Carlaghdargan Y: 1834         Dromore   Tyrone
McGuire, Pat.      T: Killyfuddy Y: 1826            Kilskeery   Tyrone
so just 11 parishes to search in the the 6 counties, if church records exist. One can you can do the same reduction for the 26 counties via ttp://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
while doing the above I found to my surprise Barrats living in same parish
Barrett, William    Townland: Clougheeny Year: 1835   Killevy   Armagh
Barrett, Willm.    Townland: Clougheeny Year: 1835   Killevy   Armagh
Barrett, William    Townland: Clougheeny Year: 1835   Killyman   Armagh
Barrett, Willm.    Townland: Clougheeny Year: 1835   Killyman   Armagh
Barrett, Hugh      T: Cultagh Y: 1835         Derryvullan   Fermanagh
Barrett, Patrick   T: Cultagh Y: 1835         Derryvullan   Fermanagh
Barret, Denis      T: Tumery Y: 1834         Dromore   Tyrone

you can do the same reduction for the 26 counties via ttp://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp

I understood Hallmarks opinion of almost an impossibility to solve unless some irish clue turns up in Scotland or folkore but thought I would test the boundaries so you need lots of luck onwards
Title: Re: McGuire
Post by: xenia1 on Thursday 23 January 20 23:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you