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Title: Polish births
Post by: noelenemary on Saturday 11 January 20 09:48 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find out where Bronislaw Szymczyk was born on 1st August 1925 in Poland. He was  in England by 1954 where he married and he died in Oldham August 1988. 
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: Bookbox on Saturday 11 January 20 11:42 GMT (UK)
he died in Oldham August 1988.

His death certificate should give his place of birth, if it was known to the informant. But of course it may just say 'Poland'.

Did he naturalise British? Any certificate may give his place of birth.
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: noelenemary on Saturday 11 January 20 12:56 GMT (UK)
English marriage and death certs do not give place of birth. Where would I find naturalisation documents?
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: cath151 on Saturday 11 January 20 13:09 GMT (UK)
National archives have some, have had a quick look, no one obvious but the spelling could have always been slightly different.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/4?_q=bronislaw%20AND%20lancashire

I tried Lancashire in search but perhaps other searches/spellings could be tried.
He was possibly in Bedlington in 1952?
26th June 1952 Shields Daily News

Polish Miner Fined
"A polish miner Bronislaw Szymczyk of Moorside, Hartford Bridge, Bedlington, who failed to halt when signalled by a policeman on traffic duty , was fined £1 for the offence at Tynemouth Magistrates Court today.
For failing to display "L" plates on his motorcycle he was fined another £1."

Cathy
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: noelenemary on Saturday 11 January 20 13:19 GMT (UK)
That sounds like him as he was married in Northumberland. Will try to find the articles you mention. thanks.
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: Bookbox on Saturday 11 January 20 13:20 GMT (UK)
English marriage and death certs do not give place of birth.

I'm afraid this is incorrect. On English/Welsh death certificates from 1969 onwards there is provision for stating place and date of birth.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/images/CG14.pdf
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: Gaie on Saturday 11 January 20 13:33 GMT (UK)
English marriage and death certs do not give place of birth.

I'm afraid this is incorrect. On English/Welsh death certificates from 1969 onwards there is provision for stating place and date of birth.

What Bookbox says is true; unfortunately foreign births are only recorded by country, not by town/city, so the death cert will only state Poland.

What was Bronislaw's father's name?  You should find it on his marriage certificate.  I ask because there are time restrictions, usually 100 years, on Polish BMD records, and it may be easier to search Polish records for his father.

Did he have siblings who came over here as well or to the US?  Did he remarry in Oldham?

Kind regards
Gaie
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: Unwind on Saturday 11 January 20 15:24 GMT (UK)
This may be along shot. Did he have any children and were they baptised by a Polish priest?  My wife has a Polish background, her parents both Polish settled in England after the war.  My wife's baptism certificate has a wealth of information on it including where her parents were born and even her grandparents names.  I realize this information may have been entered on the priest's whim but it could be another route to follow up on.
Regards David
Title: Re: Polish births
Post by: noelenemary on Saturday 11 January 20 16:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the ideas. I am researching for a friend who needs a Polish passport. Like most people the info is scattered among the family here and there.