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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: hilbury on Friday 10 January 20 10:09 GMT (UK)
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Hello Everyone
I have a lady on the 1939 register living in St Pancras; May Ethel KENT b.12 May 1923. Her surname was later changed to FULLER, with the note: PER LON GAZ APA Date: 15/12/44. I had thought that this is in reference to a name change by deed poll which was announced in the London Gazette.
May had a long term relationship, children with and later married Henry James FULLER (I have their marriage cert from 1979). May used the Fuller surname from as early as 1944 for her rations ID, and later for a drivers license and passport.
I have searched the London Gazette online for an entry of change of name by Deed Poll, but can't locate it. I've used the website search engine with loads of different combinations of words with no helpful results. I also downloaded and scrolled through the 15 Dec 1944 issue page by page without success.
Does anyone know if I'm barking up the wrong tree here, please?
I thought that she would need proof that she had changed her surname legally, for the 1939 register correction, so if it's not The London Gazette, what could it be?
Thank you in advance, any advise much appreciated
Hilary
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Under the laws of England & Wales, a person has the right to call themselves anything they like ;D
Unless it's for the purposes of fraud or deception.
A Deed Poll wasn't (and isn't) necessary.
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Under the laws of England & Wales, a person has the right to call themselves anything they like ;D
Unless it's for the purposes of fraud or deception.
A Deed Poll wasn't (and isn't) necessary.
Thanks for that KGarrad
Still have the question on what "PER LON GAZ APA Date: 15/12/44" means.
If anyone knows please?
Hilary
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Still have the question on what "PER LON GAZ APA Date: 15/12/44" means.
APA would be the district code relevant when the change was made. APA was the code for Paddington Metropolitan Borough. https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts
It's perhaps possible that the date refers to the time when the change was noted on her record and not when it (apparently) appeared in the London Gazette?
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Is the date 15/12/44 pointing to the date that the change was made to the register entry? Perhaps the Gazette notice was earlier :) perhaps search earlier issues of the Gazette...
Red post, similar thoughts ... :)
JM
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I have searched the London Gazette online for an entry of change of name by Deed Poll, but can't locate it. I've used the website search engine with loads of different combinations of words with no helpful results. I also downloaded and scrolled through the 15 Dec 1944 issue page by page without success.
Which website were you using, as, so far, I can only see a 'supplement' to December 15th, not the actual December 15th. (But I have never looked there before, so am probably just in completely the wrong place)
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Just out of interest, I have attempted to find someone who changed their name by deed poll in The Gazette, and then looked to see if I could find them in 1939, and see if the name change was recorded, and when etc.
e.g. Nathan Auvrach becomes Nathan Ashley. Nothing recorded for a name change - unless found the wrong Nathan.
Will keep on trying, but too many common names, and no indication of how old the person was etc. Need a distinct name becoming another distinctive name.
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Found an entry of deed poll name change in November 1944 Gazette, recorded as 3.3.45 Lon Gaz on 1939.
Found another one that is same date for Gazette and entry amendment.
Added:
The November 1944 recorded as 3.3.45 was also announced in September 1944, with a slight difference to first 2 names.
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I have been looking in the Index of the London Gazette, and there in the Index, Volume IV of 1944 is a name change involving Kent M. E. on page 5303.
This page does not appear in Ancestry collection, which I had been using, so will try on Gazette collection.
Added:
BINGO.
May Ethel Kent 140 Gloucester Terrace .....
from
The London Gazette
Publication date:17 November 1944 Issue:36800 Page:5303
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Well done!
Link to relevant page https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36800/page/5303
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Thanks for putting that link in.
It had not occurred to me to do that.
I was just thinking that I had given enough information for anyone to find it if they really wanted to.
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Hello Everyone
I have a lady on the 1939 register living in St Pancras; May Ethel KENT b.12 May 1923. Her surname was later changed to FULLER, with the note: PER LON GAZ APA Date: 15/12/44. I had thought that this is in reference to a name change by deed poll which was announced in the London Gazette.
May had a long term relationship, children with and later married Henry James FULLER (I have their marriage cert from 1979). May used the Fuller surname from as early as 1944 for her rations ID, and later for a drivers license and passport.
I have searched the London Gazette online for an entry of change of name by Deed Poll, but can't locate it. I've used the website search engine with loads of different combinations of words with no helpful results. I also downloaded and scrolled through the 15 Dec 1944 issue page by page without success.
Does anyone know if I'm barking up the wrong tree here, please?
I thought that she would need proof that she had changed her surname legally, for the 1939 register correction, so if it's not The London Gazette, what could it be?
Thank you in advance, any advise much appreciated
Hilary
There is only one way for an adult to make a change of name in the UK and that is for them to use the new name.
Everything else including Deed Poll, London Gazette or indeed other newspapers is simply a notification that a change of name has occurred.
Incidentally ones legal name is the name one uses.
Cheers
Guy
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BINGO.
May Ethel Kent 140 Gloucester Terrace .....
from
The London Gazette
Publication date:17 November 1944 Issue:36800 Page:5303
Awesome!! Thank you so much, chempat. I had searched all of December but not started on November yet.
The search engine on the London Gazette site hadn't worked for me to find that entry, so I've been going page by page through each issue.
Well done!
Link to relevant page https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36800/page/5303
Thanks JenB, for posting the link too. Very helpful
It's wonderful that you all helped to find answers for me
Thanks for everyone's input
Hilary