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Title: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Thursday 09 January 20 22:51 GMT (UK)
Maria Maeder married Arthur O'Keefe at St Paul's (Church of Ireland), Dublin on 13 August 1826. As Maria O'Keefe, she arrived in Tasmania, Australia, in November 1835, under the London Emigration Scheme. There she married James Rosier (as O'Keefe - her maiden name Maeder is on her children's birth certificates).

Her life in Tasmania is thoroughly detailed but her life in Ireland remains a mystery beyond her marriage to Arthur. She would have been born around 1812 in Ireland, if other evidence is to be believed.

Any and all help and/or guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 09 January 20 23:20 GMT (UK)


Only 2 results on https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ for MAEDER


 Marriage of HENRY JOHN MAEDER of TIVERTON, DEVONSHIRE and LETITIA WHITSITT / BIRCH of 11 ASHFIELD ROAD on 7 August 1895
Parish/Church/Congregation - SANDFORD
Area - DUBLIN (COI)
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-121




Marriage of ARTHUR O'KEEFE of N/R and MARIA MAEDER of N/R on 13 August 1826
Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PAUL
Area - DUBLIN (COI)


Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: dathai on Friday 10 January 20 10:01 GMT (UK)
Transcribed as Henry Macder
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10536/5837548.pdf

Franceska Maeder born Germany
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Limavady_Urban/Sandy_Row/597375/

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Limavaddy/Sandy_Row/1526316/

marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10469/5812638.pdf
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 January 20 11:06 GMT (UK)
Similar names and time - maybe worth looking at

Marriage July 1830
Eleanor Elizabeth Meader and Joseph Elliott
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-126

Baptism of Elenor Elizabeth June 1808
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-015

Child of above
February 1833
James John Gaspard Elliott
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-212

Burial March 1849
John Gaspard Mador
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-5-1-098


There are other records with various spellings. Possibly a son of above John Gaspard, also called John G looks to have emigrated to US. There are a couple of newspaper snippets about him.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 January 20 11:14 GMT (UK)
Marriage of John Gaspart Maeder and Mary Dogood June 1807
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-004

All these events look to take place at St Paul’s but I can’t see a baptism for Maria.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: sandiep on Friday 10 January 20 21:47 GMT (UK)
I do think that the marriage of John Gaspard Maeder and Mary Dogwood 1807 is correct

James & Maria called their son James Gaspard Rosier and gave her maiden name as Maeder in all cases.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 January 20 22:00 GMT (UK)
I do think that the marriage of John Gaspard Maeder and Mary Dogwood 1807 is correct

James & Maria called their son James Gaspard Rosier and gave her maiden name as Maeder in all cases.

Then it is all very favourable  :)

Perhaps St Paul’s records will have to be searched more thoroughly.

That information would have been a help at the outset.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: sandiep on Friday 10 January 20 22:21 GMT (UK)
sorry Heywood only just saw this

I didn't have the marriage you gave and I have been researching the Rosiers as James brother who also was Transported John Rosier is my 3 xGreat Grandfather,
 
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 January 20 22:31 GMT (UK)
I am confused now. I thought you were just helping and I was replying to MiniHistory, presuming that s/he knew about the Rosier family.

There is info here re Clara Fisher who married a Maeder, possibly brother to Maria.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Fisher

There are a few mentions of him to be found.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: sandiep on Friday 10 January 20 22:36 GMT (UK)
sorry didn't mean to confuse you I only found your messages today hadn't seen any before and I don't know Minihistory so yes I was just helping it is just a coincidence that its my family as well so you have helped me as well thank you

think I will go to bed know before we both get more confused  ;D
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 January 20 23:00 GMT (UK)
It’s good to know and glad to help.  ;)
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Saturday 11 January 20 05:48 GMT (UK)
Wow, Heywood, I am amazed at all this. Thank you so much. I'm going to need some time to absorb it all. That definitely explains the odd name 'Gaspaird' which had our family wondering.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Saturday 11 January 20 05:50 GMT (UK)


Only 2 results on https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ for MAEDER


 Marriage of HENRY JOHN MAEDER of TIVERTON, DEVONSHIRE and LETITIA WHITSITT / BIRCH of 11 ASHFIELD ROAD on 7 August 1895
Parish/Church/Congregation - SANDFORD
Area - DUBLIN (COI)
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-121




Marriage of ARTHUR O'KEEFE of N/R and MARIA MAEDER of N/R on 13 August 1826
Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PAUL
Area - DUBLIN (COI)
Thank you, Hallmark! It's been a while since I wondered about some Irish connections and I'm most appreciative of your help.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Saturday 11 January 20 05:51 GMT (UK)
Transcribed as Henry Macder
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10536/5837548.pdf

Franceska Maeder born Germany
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Limavady_Urban/Sandy_Row/597375/

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Limavaddy/Sandy_Row/1526316/

marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10469/5812638.pdf
Thank you, Dathai. I'm not familiar with all Irish sources so it's great to get so much help.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Saturday 11 January 20 05:57 GMT (UK)
sorry Heywood only just saw this

I didn't have the marriage you gave and I have been researching the Rosiers as James brother who also was Transported John Rosier is my 3 xGreat Grandfather,
Hi, Sandiep! The Rosiers are an endless wealth of fascination. It seems that half of Tasmania is related to them at times. :) Much of my family history info is packed away in storage for the bushfire season right now but when it's safe I'll be retracing your ancestor's story.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 January 20 09:04 GMT (UK)
Just found this (Ancestry)
Dublin almanac 1841 entry
Pg 711
51 North King Street
J G Maeder Accountant

Pg 740
Accountants
Maeder J G  (and translator of French and German documents) 51 Queen Street and 8 South Cope Street
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 January 20 09:18 GMT (UK)
Another family member to note. I don’t think we have this one

Marriage 1849
William Foster and Geraldine Maider. Her father - James John Gaspard Maeder - ‘no profession, no rank’.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1849/09377/5396305.pdf
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 January 20 09:31 GMT (UK)
Transcribed as Henry Macder
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10536/5837548.pdf

This man is in 1901 census for Tiverton - 39 yrs old, a Schoolmaster and born Austria, Naturalised British Subject

May not be part of the Dublin family
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 09:39 GMT (UK)


Rivetting.....    ;D

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-C94Y-L?i=9&cat=185720


Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 January 20 09:40 GMT (UK)
1820
http://www.from-ireland.net/wilsons-1820-dublin-directory/?record=4379

J G Maeder Accountant
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 10:06 GMT (UK)
 
Marriage of ARTHUR O'KEEFE of N/R and MARIA MAEDER of N/R on 13 August 1826
Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PAUL
Area - DUBLIN (COI)



No Marriage agreement 1825/26. 



 
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 10:11 GMT (UK)
I do think that the marriage of John Gaspard Maeder and Mary Dogwood 1807 is correct

 


Just realized it might be the Dogood in snippet...  ???



Grrr...need another coffee  :D



 
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 January 20 10:16 GMT (UK)
I have her as Dogood.

Just had a quick search on FS after that interesting link you gave, Hallmark   ::) and found someone called Allgood Dogood - now there’s a name to live up to  ;)
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 January 20 10:20 GMT (UK)
A pity we can’t find a baptism for Maria although the family does seem to be the right one with the continued use of the name Gaspard.
Here is the musical son of James and Mary Allgood.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01otx/
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 10:20 GMT (UK)
  found someone called Allgood Dogood - now there’s a name to live up to  ;)




Allgood Dogood Verygood!


Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: scotmum on Saturday 11 January 20 10:42 GMT (UK)
1849 Dublin Evening Post

Quote
.  DIED. March28, at Queen-street, aged 70, John G. Maeder, for many years a Public Accountant in this city.     

Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 10:54 GMT (UK)

Nicholls did funeral of
MAEDER, Letitia on 19 Jun 1932 from "Knockrath," Greystones  to Mt. Jerome                  
Geo. M. Meares Esq, Solr, 41, St. Stephen's Green                  
payment Per Finlay Whitsitt Esq, 87, Anglesea Rd. Reps of the late Mrs. Letitia Maeder, "Knockrath," Church Rd, Greystones
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 10:55 GMT (UK)


Source of above

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/islandwide/cemeteries/nichols-1932-1.htm


Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 11:01 GMT (UK)


Have to go, but have

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/   

or

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/wr/home.jsp

been searched?


Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 January 20 11:01 GMT (UK)

Nicholls did funeral of
MAEDER, Letitia on 19 Jun 1932 from "Knockrath," Greystones  to Mt. Jerome                  
Geo. M. Meares Esq, Solr, 41, St. Stephen's Green                  
payment Per Finlay Whitsitt Esq, 87, Anglesea Rd. Reps of the late Mrs. Letitia Maeder, "Knockrath," Church Rd, Greystones

This lady is the Irish wife of the Austrian born Henry - referred to earlier.
I am not convinced that she is the same family, but maybe Henry went to visit his relatives and found a wife  :-\
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Saturday 11 January 20 23:16 GMT (UK)


Rivetting.....    ;D

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-C94Y-L?i=9&cat=185720
Good grief! That's going to take some deciphering. And I see his bride, Mary Dogood there too, with a bit more family history to explore. Amazing work, Hallmark.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Saturday 11 January 20 23:23 GMT (UK)

Marriage of ARTHUR O'KEEFE of N/R and MARIA MAEDER of N/R on 13 August 1826
Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PAUL
Area - DUBLIN (COI)



No Marriage agreement 1825/26.
Would that have any significance? I'm not familiar with marriage agreements.
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 11 January 20 23:24 GMT (UK)


Rivetting.....    ;D

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-C94Y-L?i=9&cat=185720
Good grief! That's going to take some deciphering. And I see his bride, Mary Dogood there too, with a bit more family history to explore. Amazing work, Hallmark.


This should make it a bit clearer for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdvNkDA8_U

Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: MiniHistory on Saturday 11 January 20 23:30 GMT (UK)

This should make it a bit clearer for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdvNkDA8_U
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 12 January 20 00:57 GMT (UK)


Allgood Dogood

How many Wills??   :'(


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-S36N-J?i=292&cat=185720




Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 12 January 20 01:13 GMT (UK)



another
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHW-ZS45-G?i=261&cat=185720

Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 12 January 20 04:54 GMT (UK)
Marriage of John Gaspart Maeder and Mary Dogood June 1807
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-004

All these events look to take place at St Paul’s but I can’t see a baptism for Maria.


....and she was grand daughter of James Beggs

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-496C-3?i=279&cat=185720

One of the parties of the first part....  ;D



Title: Re: Who is Maria Maeder married 1826 in Dublin?
Post by: sandiep on Sunday 12 January 20 19:22 GMT (UK)


Rivetting.....    ;D

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-C94Y-L?i=9&cat=185720
Good grief! That's going to take some deciphering. And I see his bride, Mary Dogood there too, with a bit more family history to explore. Amazing work, Hallmark.

if you manage to translate it let me know :o made me go crosseyed