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Hi
Im trying to get to the bottom of the ROISER Family from Ramsbury
according to my records my 4th great John Fowler from Wiltshire England married a Mary Ann De-Rosier in 1824
Now i have her father being a Henry Rosier and mother Sarah Smith
ALSO Henry Rosier married 3 times 1..Sarah Smith 2..Elizabeth Toe 3. Betty ?? unknown surname to what i have traced but could be wrong
what I would like if someone can give me info on the family with dates siblings parents etc
and put me on the right path for the family
Locations of burials would also be nice as hope to get to UK mid this year to pay respect and see where they all came from
kind regards
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Starting with the marriage
Ramsbury, Wiltshire
14 Aug 1824
John Fowler
Mary Anne Rosier
By Banns
Both of the parish
Wit Wm May & Jane Palmer
Mary Anne was baptised at Ramsbury 25 Aug 1805 - parents Henry & Sarah
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Are you sure that Betty on the 1841 Census with Henry is not Elizabeth Toe?
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Good Morning
Mary Ann Rosier d of Henry and Sarah bapt 25 Aug 1805
Sarah 15.11.1807
Elizabeth 23.9.1810
Henry bapt 28.2.1813 s of Henry and Elizabeth Rosier labourer
George 8.3.1819
I think these may be his sons's rather than Henry with Elizabeth
Henry 18.2 1834 so Henry and Eliza
Sarah Anne 12.4.1835
James 1.10.1837 s of Henry and Elizabeth labourer
Henry labourer married Sarah Smith 14.5.1804 wit Robert Nenman and Janey Bell
Henry widower of this parish married 14.4.1818 Elizabeth Toe also wit William Rosier and Jane Toe
Henry Rosier buried 8 Dec 1855 born c 1780
Weirdly Sarah Rosier seems to be buried 24.4.1814 age 28 years
Ciderdrinker
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Duncan & Mandy's website - (Wiltshire Church photographs, 170 of Ramsbury, Holy Cross Church Wiltshire)
http://www.oodwooc.co.uk
1851 Census, Wiltshire, Ramsbury
Oxford Street
Henry ROSIER - Head - Widower - aged 70, Coal Dealer & Sexton - born Wiltshire Ramsbury
(living next door to George ROSER, aged 32, Woodman and his family)
? possibly Henry was the Sexton - at the above Church.
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1841 Census, Ramsbury - High Street
FOWLER
John - 40 Shopkeeper - all born in County
Mary - 34
Sarah - 13
John -11
James - 8
ann - 2
Samuel - 6 months
Elizabeth SMITH - 55 Charwoman
and over the page
George SMITH - aged 2- labourer
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Ancestry:
Wiltshire, England, Wills and Probate, 1835
'Super Copy with red seal'
This is the last Will & Testment of me, William ROSIER, Sexton, of Ramsbury, in the County of Wiltshire. Whereby, I give, devise and bequeath unto my Wife Anne ROSIER, All that my Cottage or Dwelling house, in which I now reside, with the appurtances thereto belonging, at Ramsbury aforesaid.
To hold to her and her Afsigns, for and during the term of her natural life - and from and after her Decease, I give and bequeath the said Cottage or Dwelling house and Premises, unto my Son Henry ROSIER to hold to him and his Afsigns for ever.
Also I give unto my said Wife all my house furniture and effects to dispose of, as she may think proper -
And I appointed my said Wife, and Son, Henry ROSER Executrix and Executor of my said Will.
Witnesses: E G MAYRICK, Sarah MARTON
Witnefs my hand and seal , Ramsbury, March 18th 1833
the mark of William ROSIER
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Henry bapt 23.7.1780 s of William and Ann Rosier at Ramsbury
Siblings Anne Mar 1783 ,Jane 7.11.1784 buried 8.11.1784 ,Elizabeth 12.2.1786,William 16.12.1787- 1.10.1870 ,John 14.2.1790 -24.8.1860 ,Job 20.3.1796 -14.4.1859
William buried 16.4.1833 age 76
Anne buried 30.3.1835 age 79 years
William Rosier labourer of this parish married Anne Cross 23.10.1779
wit Sarah Randal and Richard Jacobs
Possibly Henry's second wife Elizabeth Rosier buried 16.2.1837 age 42 years but I can't see a third marriage and those children born after 1830 are his son Henry's and Eliza Dixon married 17.10.1833
William bapt 12.6.1757 s of Robert and Elizabeth Rosier
Siblings - Robert 1.7.1759,Elizabeth 15.2.1761,Phillip 9.1.1763-28 .9.1763,Phillip 15.1.1764 ,Hester 5.5.1765-23 May 1765,Mary 6.7.1766,Jane and John twins 14.5.1769 ,Joseph 10.4.1774-22.3.1795.
Robert buried 3.12.1802 Sexton and Elizabeth his wife 20.7.1795.
Robert Rosier labourer married Elizabeth Lay 16.12.1756 wit Joseph Webb and William Bayman.
It seems the job of Sexton ran in the family
William Rosier who died in 1833 left a Will proven in 1835 and his the Sexton of Ramsbury.He leaves his property to his wife Anne and after her death the cottage he now lives in to his son Henry Rosier.
Ciderdrinker
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Me again
i'm guessing that before that they came from Hungerford
Robert Rosier married Esther Hellier at Hungeford 25.4.1732
Son Robert bapt there 10.5.1734 and there is no mention of a marriage in the parish
There are a lot of Robert Rosier's in Hungerford and there is a Will of one for 1730 proven 1744 which may be Robert's grandfather- Robert Rosier senior labourer.
Ciderdrinker
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Hi
My husband is also a descendant of John Fowler and Mary Ann Rosier through their daughter Sarah who married William Pratt. Emma Pratt their daughter married Kindersley Camillo Montague Lewin who was my husband's great grandfather.
I have quite a lot of information on the family but am away from home at present so will contact you when I get back. Maybe we have been in touch before?
How are you descended from John and Mary Ann?
Barbara
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:D Wow thank you for all the input to the family line
now comes the fun part drinking lots of coffee and filling in the empty spots on my tree
Some of us have spoken in the pass my family is from Riwaka of my 2nd greats being John Fowler and Sophy Walsh
if anyone has photos they would like to share please let me know
also Ill take more information as you find or have
Regards
Wayne
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Hi All
Can someone please help and confirm Mary Ann Rosier who her parents are and also Greats
I have been told her greats fled to UK from France during french revolution this I can not find details on
Ive been told her surname was De Rosier now my understanding De. is taking of a name or a person that has ownership of land to me this sounds close to a lord or esq.or a Baron
Mary was born in Wiltshire about 1802 she married John Fowler 14.8.1824 in Ramsbury Wiltshire
her and John moved to NZ in 1842
What I have parents of Mary are
Henry Rosier b.1791 d.1855
Sara Smith b.1780 d 1811
Grandparents that have meant to have fled to the UK
William Rosier 1757 d 1833 with this person states born in UK so not french
Ann Cross b.1756 d 1835 also states born in UK
Did they change names and become citizens?????
So all your help would be grateful so I can put this mater to rest
I have a ged match number been trying to use that for help but the brick wall hasnt moved
Ged Match Number SN1893022
kind regards
Wayne
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Think you mean Henry was b 1781. He died Hungerford 1855 aged 75
He is on the 1851 census - birthplace Ramsbury Wiltshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWV3-JRS
Parents marriage
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXSV-4JQ
If William Rosier was born 1757 England - his parents could not have fled France during the French Revolution as it did not start until 14.7.1789
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Baptism of Henry ROSIER, son of William and Anne at Ramsbury on 23 July 1780.
Looks like he married again on 14 April 1818- Henry ROSIER (widower) and Elizabeth TOE both otp and neither could sign. Witnesses: ? ROSIER and Jane TOE (with an "x").
In 1841 on Oxford St Ramsbury are Henry (60, ag lab) and Betty (50, not born in county)
HO107/1184/15 pg16
I agree, if William and Anne were in Ramsbury in 1780, unlikely to have escaped French Revolution.
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Baptism of William ROSIER at Ramsbury 12 June 1757, son of Robert and Elizabeth.
As Carole said, marriage of William ROSIER (labourer) and Ann CROSS at Ramsbury (after banns, both otp) on 23 Oct 1779 (originally written twenty fourth, but crossed out and replace with twenty third). Neither could sign, Witnesses: Sarah Randal and Richard JACOBS.
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Can someone please help and confirm Mary Ann Rosier who her parents are and also Greats
Mary Ann ROSIER married John FOWLER 14 August 1824 at Ramsbury (she didn't sign), both otp, after banns. Witnesses: William MAY and Jon SALMES (I have no idea about this last witness, I can't really read the signature).
Mary Ann ROSIER baptised 25 August 1805 at Ramsbury, parents Henry and Sarah.
Whilst this baptism looks likely, there is no proof that her parents were Henry and Sarah - do you have her death certificate? (NZ: 1884/2663) Does it list parents' names?
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Also meant to add earlier:
Marriage of Henry ROSIER (labourer) and Sarah SMITH (both otp, after banns) at Ramsbury on 14 May 1804 (he couldn't sign). Witnesses: Robert VENMAN (?) and Fanny BALL.
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Just for info...
There is a previous thread - 4 January 2020 Rootschat Wiltshire
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Thanks Capetown
topics merged
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Thanks Carole
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Thanks Capetown.
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Can someone please help and confirm Mary Ann Rosier who her parents are and also Greats
Mary Ann ROSIER baptised 25 August 1805 at Ramsbury, parents Henry and Sarah.
Whilst this baptism looks likely, there is no proof that her parents were Henry and Sarah - do you have her death certificate? (NZ: 1884/2663) Does it list parents' names?
Maddy52 I have obtained mary's death cert yes henry is father but no mention of mother so must be sarah
Getting little confussed trying to go back on the parents with children and greats seems unable to get to church records any help work be great
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Is there any other information on the death certificate that may help? New Zealand death certificates at that time also showed father's occupation, if known. :)
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Is there any other information on the death certificate that may help? New Zealand death certificates at that time also showed father's occupation, if known. :)
Maddys52
on her death cert it says father occupation as a Farmer
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Hi again all
Could someone put me in right direction to get correct records/photos or copies of bdm also headstone photos in Wiltshire and districts for Henry and Sarah Rosier and Henrys family
Some sites are free but seem to be going round and round circles