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Title: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: wozza267 on Tuesday 31 December 19 17:51 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Anyone have a copy of this they're willing to lend/sell? Not sure what the print run was but it's a best seller and they're all gone! :)

Apparently Stephen D is working on a 2nd edition but I'm an impatient type!!

Ta, Warren (Doe)

Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: Rebeccajames35 on Monday 20 January 20 11:23 GMT (UK)
Have you managed to get a copy yet?
Rebecca.
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: ciderdrinker on Monday 20 January 20 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hi
It's in the Library of University of Oxford or University of Liverpool -Sydney Jones Library if you are near there.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: wozza267 on Monday 20 January 20 22:13 GMT (UK)
Have you managed to get a copy yet?
Rebecca.

Hi Rebecca,

Nothing yet although a very nice person at the R&TFHS did copy me some relevant passages from the book. I'll keep looking and see if the library can source me a copy on loan.

Thanks for asking though,

Warren
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: wozza267 on Monday 20 January 20 22:18 GMT (UK)
Hi
It's in the Library of University of Oxford or University of Liverpool -Sydney Jones Library if you are near there.

Ciderdrinker

Thanks Ciderdrinker,

I think there are certain places that all publishers need to send copies including The Bodleian Library too. Am in deepest darkest Devon so would need to make a day of it. Looking at an inter-library loan as the most likely solution. Thanks for your post though.

Warren
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: Rebeccajames35 on Tuesday 28 January 20 08:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Warren
I have a copy I can send you information if you want? Is there anything in particular you needed to check it for?
Rebecca
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: wozza267 on Wednesday 29 January 20 23:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Rebecca,

Thanks so much for the offer. I've had a couple of pages passed to me by another member and that's enabled me to get back to the 1680's on my paternal (DOE) line. There were so many bakers dozen families and so many shared names but I think I've got the bones of the tree sorted. My task now is to fill it out. Am going to concentrate on the offspring of William DOE (1814-1890) and Naomi PATEMAN (1809-1890) simply cos there seems to be lots of other resources around covering the Thorney Hill encampment and the families there. Louisa/Britannia DOE in particular seems to have had on first inspection a particularly colourful life. There's also a lot of cross over on my maternal line with HUMBYs GODWINs and CROSS'.

I see you've got DOEs on your list of interests...my lot tended to stay in the New Forest (Hampshire/Dorset). Let me know if you have any in the area too and I'll ping you an invite to view my tree on Ancestry.

Thanks again for your messages and kind offer.

Warren
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: Rebeccajames35 on Friday 31 January 20 18:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Warren,
I have doe on my list because we were told my great great granny Rebecca was a doe and is in the Steven doe book as daughter of Golias doe and Mary ann draper but I have two  cousins who were told by their parents she was actually a carey so I'm really not sure?!
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: NinaGee123 on Thursday 13 November 25 14:32 GMT (UK)
I don't suppose anyone still would see this thread and could help me. My father's mother was named Elvina Doe, and they lived around the Hampshire/New Forest. She was Romani, and lived from 1932 until 2010. There's extensive ancestry records for all my other relatives but nothing for the Doe family that I've found that may be related to Elvina. I think she must have married outside the community when she married my Grandfather, Peter, and her name ultimately changed to match his name - Lloyd-Jones. They had I believe 13 children together in true fashion. It's bothering me that I can't seem to find anything on her other than the fact she was a Doe, and ultimately that has led me here to this thread. I hope someone is able to enlighten me! Many thanks.
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: Darnity on Tuesday 25 November 25 17:18 GMT (UK)
Hello Nina,

is this the Elvira Doe and Peter L Jones marriage 2Q 1951 Christchurch RD?

So who is her father shown as when she marries? And his occupation and who are the witnesses - are any of them Does?

I'm not sure what you are trying to find - the names of her parents and siblings?

Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: Darnity on Tuesday 25 November 25 17:23 GMT (UK)
And where have you got her 1932 birth year from? Is this from the age that the person registering her 2010 death gave?

I was hoping to maybe find her in 1939 to get her dob but she's not showing up when I search FindMyPast.
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: NinaGee123 on Tuesday 25 November 25 17:46 GMT (UK)
Hi there! I guess I would just like to further explore what her area of the family tree may look like, find cousins and the likes! It's just interesting to me as there seems to be such limited information. I've ordered the marriage certificate. You've got the person I'm referring to yes, it would appear whoever registered her death registered her birth as 1932, but obviously this may be wrong! Hoping for the best when the marriage certificate arrives...
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 25 November 25 19:04 GMT (UK)
GRO entry for death has birth 1931.
(Not that that helps any so far)

I agree. Details from the marriage certificate are essential.
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 26 November 25 06:21 GMT (UK)
Marriage is reg under Elvina James or Doe
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 26 November 25 16:05 GMT (UK)
Believe her husband Peter may have 1st married in 1947. He and wife appear in electoral registers together until 1950. Children from 2nd marriage born with both James and Doe mmn.

SS
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: ROMANYGENES on Wednesday 26 November 25 20:14 GMT (UK)
I checked the Thorney Hill Baptism records as a friend transcribed them years ago and can find no Elvina for 1932 or near ,checked here as sw that Peter was buried at Thorney Hill where alot f the local romany were  will check what records I have from the local ones ,theres a lot of James and Doe that are connected as wel as Cooper funny enough at same time there is a Caleb and Elvina Cooper having kids and many did use either names :) having a look and think this is her birth mispelt which ius why there was no obvious birth showing for Elvina !
   Albave Doe
   Jan 1932
   Ringwood
   Hampshire
Mother's Maiden Name   Doe
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: jonwarrn on Wednesday 26 November 25 20:32 GMT (UK)
there is a Caleb and Elvina Cooper having kids and many did use either names :)

There is this female birth registration, appears she was illegitimate
DOE, ALBAVE   
Mother's Maiden Surname:
GRO Reference: 1932  M Quarter in RINGWOOD  Volume 02B  Page 1002

ADDED
I see Reply #15 has now been edited to include that birth
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: ROMANYGENES on Wednesday 26 November 25 20:44 GMT (UK)
Snap yes after I had posted saw the misspelt birth  still better twice than not :)
As the birth was reg mums maiden name Doe assuming James would be he father names the double use of alt names and there is a marriage in right time and place (of couse just an assumption not proven) for a 
Ellen Doe -Spouse-John James
Marriage   
Jan 1933 Christchurch, Hampshire, United Kingdom
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: jonwarrn on Wednesday 26 November 25 20:50 GMT (UK)
Hi
Absolutely.
It's all down to your mention of Caleb and Elvina Cooper, hopefully you may have solved the mystery.
John
Title: Re: The family tree of Francis Doe by Stephen Doe
Post by: ROMANYGENES on Wednesday 26 November 25 21:00 GMT (UK)
Well maybe Steven Doe can when he see's this years since I looked at records but Steve has done the Doe family and thats his one main line of research so hopefull he can fiull out the Later dates as some would be in living memory so his own personal family knowledge may help solve it.