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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Union Jack on Tuesday 31 December 19 03:42 GMT (UK)
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Clearly, illiteracy and Irish accents produced multiple English interpretations of Irish surnames in the mid-19th century. I have an Irish 1823 baptism record for my g-g-grandfather Thomas Geherty and several post 1845 records after he emigrated to London, wherein his surname is spelled Garretty/Garritty.
After years of searching, I've located his brother Patrick and his wife in the 1841 census (Brick Lane, St Luke Old Street, London, Middlesex). Their surname was recorded as Garby, while on their marriage certificate it is spelled Garty. I have not been able to locate him (Patrick) or his wife (Mary) nee Magaim/Ragun in any subsequent census records. Both their ages were rounded down to 25 in the 1841 census, so they could have been 25 to 29 years old, and their marriage certificate recorded their ages simply as "full age"
Patrick's documented occupations included 'gas lighter' and 'stoker at gas factory'.
Patrick's 7-year-old daughter, Bridget, was living with Patrick's brother, Thomas in 1851, but they also had a daughter, Elizabeth Garratty, born 27 June 1846, Old Street, St. Luke.
If anyone can locate Patrick and his wife, Mary, in the 1851 census – a challenge given the variables – I would be forever grateful. Thank you.
Jack
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Patrick's 7-year-old daughter, Bridget, was living with Patrick's brother, Thomas in 1851, but they also had a daughter, Elizabeth Garratty, born 27 June 1846, Old Street, St. Luke.
Might this indicate her parents had died? Have you deaths for her parents or do they just "disappear" after the 1841 sighting.
What about the daughter born in 1846 - have you located her in 1851 or a death?
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Haven't checked the age yet but there is a death for
Mary Garatty Dec 1848 St Lukes
Added - checked the age and given as 1
Possibly this birth?
Mar 1848 St Lukes
Mary Garretty mothers maiden name Maginess
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The daughter Elizabeth Garratty death recorded St Luke, September quarter 1846 age 0
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There is a Peter Geherty registered St Lukes 1843 mothers maiden name Megenis.
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Patrick Garty married Mary Magaim September quarter registered London Vol 2 page 161
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Possible baptism of Patrick Geherty as Pat son of Peter Geherty and Mary Harmon/Hannon 31 August 1825
Westmeath. Catholic records.
The parents names are the same for the Thomas Geherty 1823
ADDED there is also a Catherine baptized 12 May 1821 spelling Goherty same parents and in Westmeath.
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Thank you very much for your help. I will pursue the three children's certificates (1843, 1846 & 1848) and make a careful search of death records for both Patrick and his wife will all the spellings from your responses. You have provided some valuable clues. :)
PS – I had some of the other event records, and perhaps I should have declared that in my lookup request, :-[ but it was already rather lengthy & complicated.
Jack