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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Dorset => Topic started by: alan o on Friday 27 December 19 12:12 GMT (UK)
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I am researching Richard Moore a Portland quarry man from a long Portland hertiage.
Born 1812 and marries Ann Stone in Oct 1831. He is on the next 3 censuses but then disappears after 1861. He has 16 children!
I can not find a death record at all. His wife becomes shop keeper but does not list herself as widow untill 1881.
Could be have abandoned her and moved off Portland? I am completely stuck.
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Is Ann recorded as Head or Wife in 1871?
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There is a Richard MOORE sentenced to 7 days imprisonment for drunkeness at Portland in June 1868, not sure if it's your man?
Western Gazette, Friday, June 5, 1868
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She is recorded as wife in 1871 but no sign of the husband.
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She is recorded as wife in 1871 but no sign of the husband.
If she is the Ann Moore who is in Portland in 1871 - occ Small Shop, she is listed as 'Head' and Mar(ried)
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I have magnified the census and I would agree - if she is shown as married then he must be alive but living somewhere else. As her occupation is small shopkeeper then it does suggest that she is the main breadwinner. I wonder if he has left her or perhaps is in prison as suggested?
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I wonder if he has left her or perhaps is in prison as suggested?
He was only in prison for 7 days in this case, if it is the right man. It could also refer to the son.
Looking at the censuses it would appear Ann is still listed as married in 1881 but not in 1891, so I guess looking for a death between then would be a start. Quite a few possibilities though ... :-\
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Another newspaper report for 1865 has a Richard Moore charged with assault on two women named Smith and Stone. Fine of 20s each woman.
Tazzie
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So it appears tat while he is absent in 1871 and 1881, his wife lists him as alive but absent. Still can't find him on either census or a death record in dorset that matches.
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There is a Richard MOORE sentenced to 7 days imprisonment for drunkeness at Portland in June 1868, not sure if it's your man?
Western Gazette, Friday, June 5, 1868
This appears to be his son who is single and also a quarryman. He is 29 as he was born in 1835.
He was baptised Richard Noster Moore and also disappears from the censuses after 1891 and I can't find his death either. He was living with his mother in Wakenham up to 1891.
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Don't know if this is him, in Wakeham and a shopkeeper. Scroll down to the Commercial listings.
https://www.opcdorset.org/PortlandFiles/PortlandDirectory1865.htm
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His wife is listed as a 'small shop' in 1871 and 1891 but there is no profession in 1881.
He is listed as a quarry excavator in census and also quarryman on jury registers but it is not inconceivable that he owned a shop as well and it is that which his wife runs.
Thank you for the steer.
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There's a Richard Moore, quarryman of Wakeham, listed as qualified to act as a juror from the 1840s up to 1869 - qualifies as he has freehold property
Might he have gone overseas?
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That's my relative. He seems to have disappeared entirely and there is no death record. It would seem extreme to up and leave the whole family but you may well be right as there does not seem to be any record of him in the UK from 1870 onwards.
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That's my relative. He seems to have disappeared entirely and there is no death record. It would seem extreme to up and leave the whole family but you may well be right as there does not seem to be any record of him in the UK from 1870 onwards.
This would be worth exploring...
In 1877 James Moore was summoned for assault at the Alexandra Inn Wakeham. His brother Richard gave evidence. It was stated by Superintendant Batty that James Moore had recently returned from America but was a Portlander by birth.
As far as I can tell, these siblings would be Richard Snr and Ann Stones sons.
James Moore had married in 1865 and had 5 children before 1874.
It's maybe not as extreme as you might expect for Portlanders to seek work abroad leaving family behind. There are a number of memorials in St. Georges Churchyard mentioning Portlanders that have died abroad.
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There is a prison record from Dorchester Gaol showing he went to prison for the assault.
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It also seems his brother Richard did 7 days in Dorchester Gaol in May 1868 for drunkeness.