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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: annie1515 on Monday 23 December 19 16:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking for the birth and parents of Henry William Raymond between 1818-1821
census says born in Allerton, Lancaster or Kirklinton, Cumberland.
He married Anna Lennon in 1845 and died in Liverpool 1878.
The marriage certificate to Anna says his father was Henry Raymond, a merchant.
Any help would be appreciated :)
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Hi Annie.
familysearch
1841 Census Liverpool
Mary Raymond 40 not born in county
Henry Raymond 20 Lancashire
Edwin Raymond 15 "
Edward Raymond 8 "
Easter Tunstall 16 "
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Possible marriage
Marriage: 11 Jul 1819 Holy Trinity, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Henry Raymond - Smith, This Parish
Mary Alexander - Spinster, this parish
Witness: Jas. Smith; J. Alexander
Married by Banns by: J. Myers
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1826, Page 142, Entry 425
Source: LDS Film 1656016
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Baptism: 8 Feb 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Edwin Raymond - [Child] of Henry Raymond & Mary
Abode: Standish Street
Occupation: Blacksmith
Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
Register: Baptisms 1823 - 1825, Page 520, Entry 4147
Source: LDS Film 1656418
Baptism: 8 Feb 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Henry Raymond - [Child] of Henry Raymond & Mary
Abode: Standish Street
Occupation: Blacksmith
Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
Baptism: 8 Feb 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Raymond - [Child] of Henry Raymond & Mary
Abode: Standish Street
Occupation: Blacksmith
Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
Register: Baptisms 1823 - 1825, Page 520, Entry 4149
Source: LDS Film 1656418 Source: LDS Film 93878
Baptism: 9 Jul 1827 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Raymond - [Child] of Henry Raymond & Mary Ann
Abode: 58 Standish Street
Occupation: Smith
Baptised by: Wheeler Milner Officiating Minister
Register: Baptisms 1826 - 1827, Page 309, Entry 2470
Source: LDS Film 1656419
Source: LDS Film 93878
Baptism: 31 Dec 1832 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Edward Raymond - [Child] of Henry Raymond & Mary
Abode: Fontenoy Street
Occupation: Black Smith
Baptised by: William Tyrer Offg. Minister
Register: Baptisms 1832 - 1833, Page 148, Entry 1181
Source: LDS Film 1656421
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Deaths Sep 1841 (>99%)
Raymond Mary Ann age 40 Liverpool 20 257
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Hiya,
Thanks for all your help but I'm not sure if this is Henry?
I have Henry on the 1841 census living in Nottinghamshire the same time that this Henry is on the census with the mother Mary.
Henry was a soldier in the 3rd dragoon Guards and he was with them on the 1841 census.
I think that this Henry is living with his wife Caroline on the 1871 census, at the same time that I have Henry living with Ann Lennon in 1871 ??
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Has he been found in 1861?
He seems to be Harry (not Henry) William Raymond both in the 1851 census and in his Army record.
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I can't find him on the 1861 census as I believe he was in Ireland.
His daughter Mary Isabella was born there in Dublin in 1862.
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The Army record gives his birthplace as St Mary’s Lancaster. He was said to be 20 years and 3 months old upon enlistment (at Edinburgh), 12 December 1839. If that is right it puts his birth around September 1819.
He was discharged from the 3rd Dragoons in July 1860, aged 40. Intended place of residence: 2 Sussex St, Liverpool.
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On the census it also says that he was born in Lancaster. I just can't find an actual record for him. I've also looked for other Raymonds and I can't find any others born around that time from Lancashire on the censuses.
On his death record in 1878 he was listed as a bookkeeper.
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Well, he’s given 3 quite different birthplaces:
1839 Army enlistment: St Mary’s, Lancaster (this was the parish of the town of Lancaster itself)
1851 census: Allerton, Lancashire (this was near Liverpool, now a suburb of Liverpool)
1871 census: Kirklinton, Cumberland (quite a bit further north, near Carlisle and the Scottish border)
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I'm wondering if Cumberland is more correct as he attested in Edinburgh?
Also he had a daughter born in Edinburgh supposedly around about 1847 either by the name of Eliza/Elizabeth.
I've searched Scotlandspeople but can't find any trace of her baptism or any trace of Henry there either.
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It’s certainly puzzling. I wonder whether he actually knew where he had been born? Perhaps he came from a family which moved around a lot, as he appears to have done too even after leaving the Army.
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not what you were asking for but do you have this one
Baptism: 18 Dec 1901 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England
Henry William Raymond - [Child] of Thomas Landon Raymond & Mina (Lund)
Born: 22 Oct 1901
Abode: 7 Peel St. Pendleton
Occupation: Labourer
as Thomas has the middle name of Landon - Thomas was born in Dublin
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Yes I do have this baptism.
I think the middle name of Landon comes from Henry's wife Anna Lennon as I have found a lot of people called Landon Lennon so unfortunately I don't think it points to Henry's relatives.
I can't find any other Raymonds born in the Lancashire and Cumberland area either on the censuses or any records of their baptisms that would fit, such as siblings of Henry or his parents.