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Title: Joseph Allmark
Post by: OneNightWright on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Looking for help on a Joseph Allmark born abt 1813 in Chester, Cheshire, England.

All i know is he married a Mary Candelon or Candelan (daughter of William) 30/10/1842 at St Oswald's in Chester, Cheshire, England.

Looking for information on his parents or any possible siblings

Thanks
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:29 GMT (UK)
Have you obtained the 1842 marriage certificate for paternal and witness details?
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:35 GMT (UK)
Where did they spend their married life?
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:36 GMT (UK)
Have you found him on the 1841 census, and, if so, who was he living with?
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
Has Mary become Mary Frith by 1851 (with a son Joseph Allmark, 7)?  If so, and her husband Joseph was deceased before the 1851 census, how is his birthplace known?
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:40 GMT (UK)
Is this that son?

Joseph Allmark  mmn Candlen
GRO Reference: 1843  June quarter  in Great Boughton
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:43 GMT (UK)
Death of Joseph Allmark aged 32, Mar qtr 1845 Warrington?
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:44 GMT (UK)
Wrong age?
Death  Joseph Allmark age 62 in March quarter 1850 in Great Boughton
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:49 GMT (UK)
This is a possible marriage, so not the later death in Great Boughton:

Marriages March quarter 1847
Mary    Allmark    G Boughton   
 Joseph Frith        G Boughton   
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 17 December 19 19:59 GMT (UK)
Joseph (shoemaker) and Mary married on 30 October 1842.  His father is James Allmark shoemaker.

Mary's surname appears to be Candelan, father William labourer.
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 17 December 19 20:15 GMT (UK)
This James is a shoe maker, so a possible for the Father:

1841 census living at St Oswald, Chester
Registration district:   Great Boughton
Piece:   130  Book:   3  Folio:   9  Page Number:   13
James Allmark   65 shoemaker  local
Frances Allmark   65  local
James Allmark   9   not local
William Allmark   50   local  chandler
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: IgorStrav on Tuesday 17 December 19 20:19 GMT (UK)
nothing to add - but I always love these posts where someone asks a question and then goes away briefly and has their tea (or something) - returning to find their query is more than answered with lots of additional information found by the Rootschat band with the bit between their teeth (if that's not a mixed metaphor).

Well done guys.  You're such stars  ;) :) :)
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 17 December 19 20:33 GMT (UK)
For consideration/parked here : there is a Joseph Alcock, local, age 30, shoemaker, living in Chapel en le Frith in 1841, with a Daniel age 4 also local.
Class: HO107; Piece: 186; Book: 10; Folio: 13; Page: 20;
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: OneNightWright on Tuesday 17 December 19 20:52 GMT (UK)
Crikey!

Cant be 100% certain he was born in Chester!

Mary did become Mary Frith.

Struggling to find him on the 1841 census and seems he probably died before 1847 when she married again so a short time period to look at.

Potential burial record located 06/03/1845 St Oswald, Chester, which ties in and this is where it states he was born in 1813
Title: Re: Joseph Allmark
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 05 July 25 11:48 BST (UK)
Hi

I know it's a bit late but in case you haven't found them
James and Franes Allmark shoemaker went to Queen Street Independent chapel in Chester.
Children
Mary 16.11.1799 bap 2.3.1803
William 4.2.1803 bapt same date
Joseph 12.11.1807 bap 17.1.1808
Hannah 11.6.1809 mother of James bapt 27.4.1831
Joseph 2nd July 1810 bap 9.12.1810
Thomas 13.4/17.5.1812
Daniel 11.4./2.4. 1814

James Hillmark /Allmark shoemaker married Frances Young  Chester 1.8.1799

Just in case you didn't get them

Ciderdrinker